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State of the Union Address

At least Republicans realize we need to increase domestic oil production. At least Republicans realize we need to deport illegal immigrants. At least Republicans pay taxes to keep this country going.

Domestic production of oil doesn't help the domestic front. It is a global commodity and is sold on the global market and what we produce wouldn't make a dent in the global prices.
 
Technically you WAY off. The first capital gain tax was 7%, over half of what it is today. There were also graduations for exempting various percentages based on how long an investment was held. But of course you knew that I'm sure.

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And as you have openly admitted, there is no reason for the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich, and the middle class has gotten your message:

 
Yes, can you answer this question that other conservatives are unable to answer???

Why should the middle class vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich if there is no benefit to them???

Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class. Romney paid over 3 million dollars in taxes AFTER his Bush tax cut and someone making 40,000 or less didn't pay any FIT, which one got the bigger tax cut? Why do you envy what someone else has and want to punish them by making them pay more in taxes? Your class envy says it all.
 
And the tax should be higher. The lower rate has not helped the economy has it? Investors are sitting on cash. Sorry, your theory isn't working.

We are sitting on our cash because of fear. The class warfare being waged on us has compelled us to retract from the economy and watch you guys piss, moan and whine. Just keep it up as we can do this for a LONG time. Go camp in a park and see what that will do.:lamo


The person losing their job, loses the ability to generate revenue. The person that lost the investment loses their ability to generate revenue. Both should then find a job.

Again, how/where did the investor lose his job?
 
THINK AGAIN! An investment CAN be a source of income if successful. It can also be lost ENTIRELY in the case of business failure.

And how is that different from income that is lost from losing a job?
 
We are sitting on our cash because of fear. The class warfare being waged on us has compelled us to retract from the economy and watch you guys piss, moan and whine. Just keep it up as we can do this for a LONG time. Go camp in a park and see what that will do.:lamo

Like I said, your theory doesn't work. I hope the gains tax increases.



Again, how/where did the investor lose his job?

Investing IS a job. If he loses the ability to invest, he has lost his job.
 
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Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class. Romney paid over 3 million dollars in taxes AFTER his Bush tax cut and someone making 40,000 or less didn't pay any FIT, which one got the bigger tax cut? Why do you envy what someone else has and want to punish them by making them pay more in taxes? Your class envy says it all.

Romney wouldhave paid over $7 million at the proper 35% rate.

He got the biggest tax cut.
 
And as you have openly admitted, there is no reason for the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich, and the middle class has gotten your message:

When you posted this previously I asked you why you want to try to mislead but you didn't respond. Why was that?

Again the poll question was "Can/Should the Budget Deficit Be Reduced with Spending Cuts Alone or Should There Be Some Increase in Taxes?" not merely 'tax cuts for the rich'.

Try again.
 
And how is that different from income that is lost from losing a job?

Because the revenue I receive from MY efforts at MY job (before retirement). The revenue from MY investment is revenue I receive when YOU do YOUR job (if you worked of course). And if you would work HARDER I MIGHT realize an even GREATER revenue from MY investment in YOU!
 
Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class.
I love how you said "joing." Two reasons:
1. Misspelled
2. You just admitted that people raised in the upper class have it much easier than the rest of us.
Of course, those two things are so blatantly true, so why do I even bother mentioning it?
 
Romney wouldhave paid over $7 million at the proper 35% rate.

He got the biggest tax cut.

How does a liberal cut Federal Income taxes for someone not paying any? Absolutely amazing how you are so concerned about how much money gets to the Federal Govt. and thus is wasted by that govt.
 
Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class. Romney paid over 3 million dollars in taxes AFTER his Bush tax cut and someone making 40,000 or less didn't pay any FIT, which one got the bigger tax cut? Why do you envy what someone else has and want to punish them by making them pay more in taxes? Your class envy says it all.

So you can't think of any benefit to the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich either?

Thanks!
 
I love how you said "joing." Two reasons:
1. Misspelled
2. You just admitted that people raised in the upper class have it much easier than the rest of us.
Of course, those two things are so blatantly true, so why do I even bother mentioning it?

I don't think the upper class is too concerned about you joining them, certainly not as much as you are trying to get the upper class to join you. Amazing how most conservatives fight for the right of people like you to keep more of what you earn. The least you could do is say "thank you."
 
So you can't think of any benefit to the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich either?

Thanks!

Because most people with a brain understand that you cannot tax the rich enough to support the liberal spending appetite and that keeping more of what you earn is never an expense to the govt
 
Because most people with a brain understand that you cannot tax the rich enough to support the liberal spending appetite and that keeping more of what you earn is never an expense to the govt
And most people with a brain of any decency realize that the rich don't need all that money.

What part of that do you not understand?
 
Starting with the first Republican President, Lincoln, there have been 19 Republican Presidents and 11 Democrats Presidents.

Right, and year for year, Republicans have held a greater ratio.
 
When you posted this previously I asked you why you want to try to mislead but you didn't respond. Why was that?

Where have you been misled???

Again the poll question was "Can/Should the Budget Deficit Be Reduced with Spending Cuts Alone or Should There Be Some Increase in Taxes?" not merely 'tax cuts for the rich'.

Exactly, as I've noted, the only time in the last 30 years that we have reduced the deficit significantly is when we both cut spending and increased taxes on the rich.

The Democrats are the only ones that have proposed doing both.
 
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If govt acted responsible, there wouldn't need to be tax hikes on anyone! Both parties are guilty. Financially responsible men, either aquired or inherited wealth, but in either case MAINTAINED wealth, seem to lose perspective in the halls of govt. Hey! A million here and a million there, and after awhile we're talking REAL money! seems the prevailing pork barrel attitude.
 
And most people with a brain of any decency realize that the rich don't need all that money.

What part of that do you not understand?

The part that seems to claim you know what other people need or even what they do with their money. Bet my church and local charities believe I pay enough in taxes and would like to see me keep more of what I earn. You on the otherhand buy the liberal rhetoric that money needs to go to the Federal govt. because they can spend it better and more effeciently than you can yourself.
 
Because most people with a brain understand that you cannot tax the rich enough to support the liberal spending appetite and that keeping more of what you earn is never an expense to the govt

Most people agree we must both cut spending and eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. There are 23 recent polls that confirm that. Only one party has proposed doing both.
 
Most people agree we must both cut spending and eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. There are 23 recent polls that confirm that. Only one party has proposed doing both.

Your class envy and jealousy is noted
 
If govt acted responsible, there wouldn't need to be tax hikes on anyone! Both parties are guilty. Financially responsible men, either aquired or inherited wealth, but in either case MAINTAINED wealth, seem to lose perspective in the halls of govt. Hey! A million here and a million there, and after awhile we're talking REAL money! seems the prevailing pork barrel attitude.

Would you accept military spending being slashed to help reduce the budget deficit?
 
The part that seems to claim you know what other people need or even what they do with their money. Bet my church and local charities believe I pay enough in taxes and would like to see me keep more of what I earn. You on the otherhand buy the liberal rhetoric that money needs to go to the Federal govt. because they can spend it better and more effeciently than you can yourself.
I never made such a claim.
Oh wait.
That thing about how the rich don't need millions upon millions in wealth?
Dude, that's called common sense. If you want to dispute it then explain to me why one would need all that money?
 
There's a big difference in reducing the "deficit" (amount overspent the income) and balancing a budget! How long can your personal finances sustain DEFICIT spending? Smart people in private life act idiots when elected! How do you FIX this!
 
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