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State of the Union Address

Bush doubled unemployment.

That's your idea of a good president, right?


please do not minimize his accomplishments

he also turned a budget surplus into massive deficits
 
I'm about half way through it. Pretty great so far. I very much like the "we are still a country that can do big things" kind of angle. IMO that's the most central distinguishing point for the Democrats. The Republicans seem to just want to drag their feet and slow the country down, oppose everything, scale back, give up. The Democrats still have a vision for a future that is better than today and they still want to aggressively go after it.
Holy crap! Someone actually did some analysis!
 
please do not minimize his accomplishments

he also turned a budget surplus into massive deficits
He also took us to war over WMD that weren't in Iraq. That cost America roughly another 5,000 lives.

The righties' idea of a "good president," though.
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He also took us to war over WMD that weren't in Iraq. That cost America roughly another 5,000 lives.

The righties' idea of a "good president," though.
:roll:

Don't overlook that he presided over the only 8 years in American history in which the median household income actually fell. Gotta wonder where all that money went...

But it's not all bad news. The median income of millionaires increased 400% during the same term.

Gosh I wonder if there is a connection.
 
He also took us to war over WMD that weren't in Iraq. That cost America roughly another 5,000 lives.

The righties' idea of a "good president," though.
:roll:

Still campaigning against Bush? I'll let you in on a little secret....Bush is not in the White House anymore....and he's not running for president this year.
 
Some thirty second ads produced by the RNC can change the percentage of Americans who think he deserves a second term.

Good luck with that one....maybe MAYBE if there was a viable alternative, but the two current clowns in the lead aren't going to be very convincing.
 
Tweak away, but that's nothing but a worthless unscientific online poll.

I never claimed that it was scientific....but it is an instant "temperature" of the effect of the speech....polls in the next few days will tell the full story...but for those hoping that this would be Obama's last SOTU speech.....this is a good indication that he didn't falter as many were hoping for.
 
Still campaigning against Bush? I'll let you in on a little secret....Bush is not in the White House anymore....and he's not running for president this year.

And yet.....we're still barely recovering from the mess that he left this country in.
 
Good luck with that one....maybe MAYBE if there was a viable alternative, but the two current clowns in the lead aren't going to be very convincing.
After seeing Bush get two terms in office, I really can't say doubt the possibility.
 
Bush doubled unemployment.

That's your idea of a good president, right?

Unemployment was 4.2% in Jan 2001 and 7.8% in January 2009 when he left. The interesting part is When the Democrats took over Congress in Jan 2007 it was 4.6% and 7.8% in January 2009.
 
This inept hack Obama has now fully transformed the once esteemed and omnipotent Office of the President of the United States to that of a carnival barker, trying to take your money to deliver a show hyped beyond the pale.

The "listen to what I say, ignore what I do" President.

May the Republc have endured its last SOTU by this jackal.


With help from the likes of George W Bush and Clinton, he doesn't have far to go to make a carnival out of the Presidency, one could say the job is already done for him:

 
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Still campaigning against Bush? I'll let you in on a little secret....Bush is not in the White House anymore....and he's not running for president this year.
No, he's not running this year ... but his party is. This would be a bad time for America to forget how badly Republicans ****ed this nation.
 
Unemployment was 4.2% in Jan 2001 and 7.8% in January 2009 when he left. The interesting part is When the Democrats took over Congress in Jan 2007 it was 4.6% and 7.8% in January 2009.
What did Democrats do in 2007 to cause the recession??
 
Watching Obama give the State of the Union Address tonight just underlined what a lame bunch of no-nothing right wing hacks he has running against him. Seriously, this collection of losers is the best the Republicans can come up with, which indeed is a sad indictment of what has happened to the party of Lincoln.
 
No, he's not running this year ... but his party is. This would be a bad time for America to forget how badly Republicans ****ed this nation.

Republicans ALWAYS **** up the country when they are in charge......
 
I'll repeat myself AGAIN since someone seems to be a bit too DENSE to understand:

I DONT GIVE A RATS ASS HOW GOOD HE CAN TALK. I CARE ABOUT HOW GOOD OF A PRESIDENT HE IS. Apparently I expect more out of a president than you do.

Shall I remind you which idiot can't count the number of states in his nation?

Get a life dude.

P.S. Bush was more of a down to earth guy than Obama will ever be. Great president? Nah, but he cared about this nation more than Obama ever has or will. You don't see photos of Bush floating around with a turbin on his head. That says A LOT.



What does a turban has to do with it?
 


The Democrats were warned many time, but still fought regulation of the Home Loan Banks and F&F.
 
Watching Obama give the State of the Union Address tonight just underlined what a lame bunch of no-nothing right wing hacks he has running against him. Seriously, this collection of losers is the best the Republicans can come up with, which indeed is a sad indictment of what has happened to the party of Lincoln.

The GOP of today is nothing like the Republican party of Lincoln.
 
No, he's not running this year ... but his party is. This would be a bad time for America to forget how badly Republicans ****ed this nation.

At least Republicans realize we need to increase domestic oil production. At least Republicans realize we need to deport illegal immigrants. At least Republicans pay taxes to keep this country going.
 


The Democrats were warned many time, but still fought regulation of the Home Loan Banks and F&F.

But that was years earlier when Democrats weren't even in charge of the Congress. You pointed out how the unemployment rate went from 4.6% to 7.8% between the time they took over and the time Obama took over ...

Well ... how was that their fault? Blaming a member of the minority party who did not have any power to stop the Republican party in charge from pushing forward with their agenda is not going to cut it. What bills did Democrats pass or what bills did they fail to pass that you believe caused the recession?

Republicans were in charge ... how is it not their fault?? Weren't they the ones running the country??
 
At least Republicans realize we need to increase domestic oil production. At least Republicans realize we need to deport illegal immigrants. At least Republicans pay taxes to keep this country going.
Republicans controlled the executive branch, the House, and the Senate back in the 1920's ... that resulted in the worst economy in U.S. history. Republicans were given that much power again in 2001 ... similar results but fortunately, not as bad.
 
Obama claimed exactly the same thing about Buffett's tax rate, as I did about Romney earlier today.

And I stand by the claim - Anyone that gets their income primarily from investment, like Romney and Buffett, due to the low capital gains tax rate, and virtually no payroll taxes is going to be paying a lower rate than the average person of middle class who is required to pay both income tax and payroll tax on their entire income.


"The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has crunched the numbers and found that Warren Buffett and his secretary are the exception to the rule. For the most part, the wealthy pay a significantly higher percentage of their income in taxes than middle-income workers.

The key numbers: this year those earning over $1 million will pay, on average, 29.1 percent on federal taxes. Those earning between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15 percent.

That’s not to say that there aren’t wealthy people who are even better than Buffett at avoiding taxes. In 2009, 1,470 people with incomes over $1 million a year paid absolutely no taxes. But that represents less than 1 percent of those earning over $1 million a year. Raising their taxes may be the fair thing to do, but it will not bring in much revenue.

There were 236,883 taxpayers who earned more than $1 million in 2009. That’s less than two-tenths of one percent of all filers.

The Top 400 tax filers – the very richest Americans – do pay a lower rate of just 18.11 percent of their total income. Why? Many of them are hedge fund managers and people like Buffet — their income is pegged how much their investment fund grows. For some reason, this income is counted as so-called “carried interest” (even though it is not interest at all; it’s more like a performance bonus) and is taxed at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/fact-check-the-richtheir-secretaries-and-taxes/



Good thing you didn't take that bet Maggie!
 
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