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State of the Union Address

Ontologuy said:
After the speechy goosebumps wear off, most people eventually start lookin' around for evidence of American citizens becoming more prosperous.

It's been three years of nothing .. so, heck, let's give it another six months.

Pretty sure by then no neededly heroic prosperity-creating deeds will have been done.

Then we can focus on electing the Repub candidate in November ..

.. So he too can predictably repeat the same do-nothing-worthy behavior ..

.. Complete with thrilling speechs.
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Well, things have gotten better for me since Obama took office, but let me let you in on a little secret. It didn't have anything to do with Obama, Democrats, Republicans, or anybody else. It was all me. Screw the politicians. I don't need 'em.
 
This inept hack Obama has now fully transformed the once esteemed and omnipotent Office of the President of the United States to that of a carnival barker, trying to take your money to deliver a show hyped beyond the pale.

The "listen to what I say, ignore what I do" President.

May the Republc have endured its last SOTU by this jackal.
 
haymarket said:
I believe the standard tea party response is all those freedoms guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence.
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I love how people give those "EVERYTHING!" responses, yet can't name one specific one.
 
MaggieD said:
Nope. If that statement is not 100% correct, you pay. I know your little tricks. :rofl

Seriously, you and I both know that's not correct. Now, change the wording to what he said earlier in the speech, to (paraphrased) "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," is possibly correct. His second statement? A lie. And don't say it was a mistake -- since the text of his speech was released beforehand. It was written that way. And it was written that way on purpose.

So. If not 100% correct, you pay. Deal?

**It occurs to me they may not even rate it...since surely she hasn't released her income tax return.
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If we go with his statement "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," yes, that is what I know to be true. Deal?

Just as Mitt Romney pays a lesser tax rate than someone making $50,000 a year that you were sure was wrong, so you should have no doubts, right?
 
Hey, look...

George W. Bush's budget director is lecturing the President about fiscal responsibility...

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poweRob said:
Nader. Dennis Kucinich. Bernie Sanders. Rocky Anderson.

No. No one is perfect for me. No one could ever be perfect. I stated things that I liked, I'm not going to sit back and kiss his ring because he's not a righty. If he's wrong on something for me, I'll say it.
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Are any of those guys candidates???
 
Eighty Deuce said:
This inept hack Obama has now fully transformed the once esteemed and omnipotent Office of the President of the United States to that of a carnival barker, trying to take your money to deliver a show hyped beyond the pale.

The "listen to what I say, ignore what I do" President.

May the Republc have endured its last SOTU by this jackal.
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So the sky IS falling. lol

Good lord.
 
Catawba said:
If we go with his statement "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," yes, that is what I know to be true. Deal?

Just as Mitt Romney pays a lesser tax rate than someone making $50,000 a year that you were sure was wrong, so you should have no doubts, right?
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No deal. :rofl -- And you're parting shot off the bow that I was wrong isn't right either. You're batting zero.

BTW, do you know what percentage Warren Buffett pays on his income? That answer would be, "No." Do you know what percentage the secretary pays on her income? That answer would also be, "No."

Anyhow, I thought we had a sure contribution to DP on your behalf. But you weaseled... ;)
 
Eighty Deuce said:
This inept hack Obama has now fully transformed the once esteemed and omnipotent Office of the President of the United States to that of a carnival barker, trying to take your money to deliver a show hyped beyond the pale.

The "listen to what I say, ignore what I do" President.

May the Republc have endured its last SOTU by this jackal.
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Well yeah it does take a congress willing to do something to actually do something, I'm pretty sure Obama would do all that he says if he had support of congress.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Obama is a windbag.

There is nothing of substance in any of this. It sounds good, all he speaks about is the gov't funding a bunch of crap. We don't have the money, bonehead. You spent it all. Get away from "the gov't is the answer to the countries problems" and change it to "the gov't is the SOURCE of the countries problems" and then people might want to listen to you.



Better than watching Pelosi who looked like she was back there having an orgasm.
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No doubt, this is your idea of a great speech ...


 
So basically this thread is dedicated to a poster that fawns at every minor quip by the speaker, and a range of posters who are ready to curse his name. Did I miss anything?
 
Fiddytree said:
So basically this thread is dedicated to a poster that fawns at every minor quip by the speaker, and a range of posters who are ready to curse his name. Did I miss anything?
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Well, you've never seen Life is Beautiful or Newsies...
 
MaggieD said:
No deal. :rofl -- And you're parting shot off the bow that I was wrong isn't right either. You're batting zero.

BTW, do you know what percentage Warren Buffett pays on his income? That answer would be, "No." Do you know what percentage the secretary pays on her income? That answer would also be, "No."

Anyhow, I thought we had a sure contribution to DP on your behalf. But you weaseled... ;)
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Not willing to put your money where your position was earlier today???

Warren Buffett, like Romney, gets most of his income from investments, therefore I know his tax rate is going to be somewhere close to 15%, as was Romneys.
And I know that his secretary who is required to pay both income taxes and payroll taxes on her entire income, that we she wlll have a tax bill higher than Buffett's 15%.

And I am willing to bet that my claim, and Obama's, is correct. Why are you not willing to bet I am wrong as you maintained earlier?
 
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Zyphlin said:
So question....

Did we enact things to expand our oil production 10 years ago, under Bush, and that's what is coming to fruition now?

OR

Is it actually possible to expand oil production currently and it come into play sooner than 10 years?

Because one or the other has to be the case if Obama's statements about Oil production is true.
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I think it is the result of something that happened under Bush; namely, skyrocketing oil prices which made a lot of formerly marginal wells and drilling projects cost effective.
 
Fiddytree said:
So basically this thread is dedicated to a poster that fawns at every minor quip by the speaker, and a range of posters who are ready to curse his name. Did I miss anything?
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Nope, carry on. :)


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Catawba said:
Man, Obama is tearing up the place tonight!!! And Boehner looks like he's trying to swallow a cat!

Anybody watching this???
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Obama owns the place for all intent and purposes. Boehner looks as though he is one of those defendants who knows he is guilty, knows the judge knows that he is guilty, and knows the jury knows that he is guilty. The obstructor and thief of the House is getting his lunch eaten.
 
usda select said:
Obama owns the place for all intent and purposes. Boehner looks as though he is one of those defendants who knows he is guilty, knows the judge knows that he is guilty, and knows the jury knows that he is guilty. The obstructor and thief of the House is getting his lunch eaten.
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Boehner looks like a man who realized that the assclown in front of him is ruining america and that Obama's fawning toadies are too enamored with Obama's bashing the wealthy to realize that the clown is pissing on America
 
MaggieD said:
Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News
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Catawba said:
Want to bet how the fact check comes out on this?
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MaggieD said:
Yes!! $25 donation to DP!! Just to nail it down, from the transcript, this is exactly what he said:

Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.
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Full Text And Word Cloud Of Obama's State Of The Union | ZeroHedge
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Cat's Weasel #1 --

Catawba said:
OK, I'll go with his exact wording and it has to be rated completely false. Deal?
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MaggieD said:
Nope. If that statement is not 100% correct, you pay. I know your little tricks. :rofl

Seriously, you and I both know that's not correct. Now, change the wording to what he said earlier in the speech, to (paraphrased) "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," is possibly correct. His second statement? A lie. And don't say it was a mistake -- since the text of his speech was released beforehand. It was written that way. And it was written that way on purpose.

So. If not 100% correct, you pay. Deal?

**It occurs to me they may not even rate it...since surely she hasn't released her income tax return.
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Cat's Weasel #2:

Catawba said:
If we go with his statement "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," yes, that is what I know to be true. Deal?

Just as Mitt Romney pays a lesser tax rate than someone making $50,000 a year that you were sure was wrong, so you should have no doubts, right?
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MaggieD said:
No deal. :rofl -- And you're parting shot off the bow that I was wrong isn't right either. You're batting zero.

BTW, do you know what percentage Warren Buffett pays on his income? That answer would be, "No." Do you know what percentage the secretary pays on her income? That answer would also be, "No."

Anyhow, I thought we had a sure contribution to DP on your behalf. But you weaseled... ;)
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And biggest weasel of all...completely changes bet to discussion on another thread --

Catawba said:
Not willing to put your money where your position was earlier today???

Warren Buffett, like Romney, gets most of his income from investments, therefore I know his tax rate is going to be somewhere close to 15%, as was Romneys.
And I know that his secretary who is required to pay both income taxes and payroll taxes on her entire income, that we she wlll have a tax bill higher than Buffett's 15%.

And I am willing to bet that my claim, and Obama's, is correct. Why are you not willing to bet I am wrong as you maintained earlier?
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MaggieD said:
Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News
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That must be serious stuff, I didn't know it was possible to puke on the mere premise of a politician, possibly telling a lie, I mean after all it must be a rare occurrence, is it not? :roll:
 
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