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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think its fine to double someone's taxes even though they have been taxed twice?

    But thanks for confirming what we know about your motivations.
    "People" aren't taxed. Financial transactions are taxed.

    Thanks for confirming your ignorance concerning taxation
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is no taxing twice for you to worry about. You know that. You have been educated on that false claim time and time and time again.

    Ah, but there is double taxation that goes on in our society. Everything from sales, to inheritance taxation are forms of taxing the same money that has been taxed when earned.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah, but there is double taxation that goes on in our society. Everything from sales, to inheritance taxation are forms of taxing the same money that has been taxed when earned.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    "People" aren't taxed. Financial transactions are taxed.

    Thanks for confirming your ignorance concerning taxation

    Then square that with payroll taxes.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Because even with private insurance I can choose to pay more, for the less cost effective procedure.
    You can pay more under Australia's UHC system for a higher level of care if you wish.



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    If you fall into the average, all is well, if you don't, you're out of luck.
    No they rate which system serves the most people the best. Ours does not measure up because our system is unaffordable to so many.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then square that with payroll taxes.

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    "Getting paid" is a financial transaction
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not part of income taxes. Part or taxes paid.
    Some people have a hard time getting that.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Some people have a hard time getting that.
    Why don't you send in more of what you earn and do your civic duty. Put your money where your mouth is, nothing is stopping you other than probably your family. Why you support giving more to the Federal govt. and less to your family?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If someone lives off of investments Obama wants to double (at least) their taxes if they are making a million a year.

    are you of the opinion that someone who has a million in income and spends at a level consistent with other people is not going to be hurt if their federal income taxes go from 150K to 300K (and of course they are also paying massive state income taxes and property taxes most likely as well)
    Just a little history:

    Congress started taxing capital gains at a lower rate than wages following World War I. The concern then was that high taxes on capital gains actually reduced revenue because people would simply hold onto their investments and restrict the flow of capital, according to the Encyclopedia of Taxation and Tax Policy.

    At the time, however, the top tax rate on wages was a whopping 73 percent. In 1922, Congress lowered the top capital gains rate to 12.5 percent, a rate that lasted until 1934.

    For much of the next 70 years, the top tax rate on long-term capital gains hovered between 20 percent and 30 percent, going as high as 39.9 percent in the 1970s but never falling below 20 percent until 2003, when Congress passed a gradual reduction to the current rate.

    Why Romney, other wealthy investors, pay lower taxes on investments than they would on wages - The Washington Post

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think its fine to double someone's taxes even though they have been taxed twice?
    Oh? How are they taxed twice?

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