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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is it? Not so sure that is true. But, again, we're nto talking abut any serious increase. Those making that type of money won't likely notice it, and they do benefit a lot from government. it's just hard to feel sorry for those with so much benefit from government whining, while demoning working folk, such as we've seen here on the forum and on Fox.

    The point is, the wealthy have paid more, and been fine. And no one is asking they go back to highest rates, just to where they were before the most recent cuts, a time when they were doing just fine. So, stop pretending something drastic is being asked of them.
    If someone lives off of investments Obama wants to double (at least) their taxes if they are making a million a year.

    are you of the opinion that someone who has a million in income and spends at a level consistent with other people is not going to be hurt if their federal income taxes go from 150K to 300K (and of course they are also paying massive state income taxes and property taxes most likely as well)

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep you voted for Bush who DOUBLED the debt, increased the size of governmnet, and increased government spending. In other words, you chose poorly. Not only that you chose poorly TWICE. You have no credibiility in your statements.
    Bush didn't double the debt in 2004, Bush didn't increase the size of the govt. in his first term, Bush increased govt. spending but what President didn't. You can be blinded by ignorance but that doesn't change reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush didn't double the debt in 2004, Bush didn't increase the size of the govt. in his first term, Bush increased govt. spending but what President didn't. You can be blinded by ignorance but that doesn't change reality.
    do you find it amusing that the people who spend the most time whining about the Bush spending are the ones most enamored with the biggest spending president in history?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If someone lives off of investments Obama wants to double (at least) their taxes if they are making a million a year.

    are you of the opinion that someone who has a million in income and spends at a level consistent with other people is not going to be hurt if their federal income taxes go from 150K to 300K (and of course they are also paying massive state income taxes and property taxes most likely as well)
    They should drop to their knees and give proper thanks in the time honored fashion of thousands of years for their good fortune to have it as good for as long as they have had it. They enjoyed those discriminatory and preferential rates while their fellow Americans were paying rates 60% higher for the same income from wages and salary.

    The gravy train is coming to an end for them and the train of tax justice is replacing it. Get used to it.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you find it amusing that the people who spend the most time whining about the Bush spending are the ones most enamored with the biggest spending president in history?
    I think he is just trying to point out the anti spending hypocrisies of the right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    They should drop to their knees and give proper thanks in the time honored fashion of thousands of years for their good fortune to have it as good for as long as they have had it. They enjoyed those discriminatory and preferential rates while their fellow Americans were paying rates 60% higher for the same income from wages and salary.

    The gravy train is coming to an end for them and the train of tax justice is replacing it. Get used to it.
    so you think its fine to double someone's taxes even though they have been taxed twice?

    But thanks for confirming what we know about your motivations. and your claim that most americans are paying 15% is as dishonest a claim as your less than malignant attitude expressed in other posts that pretend to be based on fairness

    the discrimination is against rich tax payers in favor of the bigger voting classes

    but I appreciate you disclosing your true attitude (again)

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama, while he needs to be replaced for other reasons, DOES NOT control the economy.
    Then he can not take credit for its supposed improvement either.

    Congress controls the spending and congress is the problem.
    Abso-freakin-lutely! But it goes far beyond the meaning that you want to attach to it. See, congress is the problem for allowing the Trillion dollar deficits, Congress is the problem that they won't say no to Obama's massive bailouts to political donors, and Congress is the problem that they abdicate their duty.

    The problem is people like you will continue to vote in the SAME people that are causeing the problem while giving the excuse that "their guy" isn't causing the problem.
    So, you agree with the Tea Party...Who knew?

    You hold the president in a "god-like" status without even realizing how things work. And you call other people ignorant, sheesh.

    No, that would be Obama himself....




    Until people start caring about who they send to congress, even a quarter as much as they care about the presidency, nothing is going to change with a new president.
    Nope, you do have a minor point there. The more people that we can send in that stop acting like progressive liberals the better.

    p you voted for Bush who DOUBLED the debt, increased the size of governmnet, and increased government spending. In other words, you chose poorly. Not only that you chose poorly TWICE. You have no credibiility in your statements.
    You speak of credibility, and attack Bush when we know that Obama has dwarfed Bush spending? Who's choice again?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we being you and what sockpuppet?

    your grasp of reality is non-existent

    tell me what other tax is constantly used to buy votes by politicians?
    Payroll taxes, corporate taxes, capital gains, and just about every other form of taxation
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think its fine to double someone's taxes even though they have been taxed twice?
    There is no taxing twice for you to worry about. You know that. You have been educated on that false claim time and time and time again.
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