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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What seems to be total ignorance and distortion is the statement that I said that 47% of the people pay no taxes when the reality is I accurately stated that 47% of the income earning households pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. You seem to like far too many, brainwashed into the liberal belief that all money goes into one pot and that specific taxes for specific purposes is irrelevant. The unified budget process has been sold to people like you.

    Every tax you listed is a use tax. Please learn what FIT funds and then ask yourself why any income earning family doesn't pay something in FIT. Stop reading what you want to believe and look at what was actually posted. Complete distortion is the act of a desparate liberal.
    the bottom line is that the people obamatard attacks as not paying "their fair share" pay far more combined taxes than the middle class and get no additional benefits for that massive amount of payments

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    PLEASE NOTE...I stated the following: NOBODY IN AMERICA ESCAPES PAYING TAXES OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER That was followed by a list of very 170 ways the government gets into our pockets, and applies to the poor to the rich.

    But you love making your arguments all about mostly "poor" people who you say live off the system don't pay their fair share of...LETS SAY "FEDERAL INCOME TAX".

    All Americans...everybody is taxed in one way or another...period.

    If they weren't paying, your government would be out of street corners begging for money.
    but when half the country don't pay the most politically relevant tax and have the ability to raise it on others, we have a major problem

    when Obamatard starts talking about raising hunting license fees or the state sales tax in say Ohio, then maybe your ranting will have some relevance. the income tax is about the only one that is really useful for buying votes by telling the many that only the rates on the few will go up

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    So meanwhile...they both keep doing the same things over and over while we suffer from their incompetence...right?

    We can't afford anymore incompetent Presidents and Congress...and Supreme Court members.

    The laws that put them above the law...to be bought, to use their power to work in their own interest rather than ours...HAVE TO CHANGE NOW.

    No more phony reforms. Single issue legislation only.

    Stop blaming crooks who we've legally allowed to be crooks. We're the problem, we have to change our way of thinking and dealing with our elected officials.
    Bush's supreme court picks certainly are more competent than the two clinton picks and Quotamayor. Those three idiots claimed that the second amendment did not recognize an individual right

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the bottom line is that the people obamatard attacks as not paying "their fair share" pay far more combined taxes than the middle class and get no additional benefits for that massive amount of payments
    They get plenty of benefits all the same. Not sure they need additional benefits. but, we're not talking about any major increase here, and what obama says is next to nothing to what those who demonize workers have said.

    The point is, we need both cuts in spending and increase in revenue. That would be least painful at the top than at the bottom. When they need heavy lifting at my house, they call me. Why? Becasuse I can do it easier than the 5 year old grandchild can. I have no problem with that, just as I have no problem paying more than those who make less.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but when half the country don't pay the most politically relevant tax and have the ability to raise it on others, we have a major problem

    when Obamatard starts talking about raising hunting license fees or the state sales tax in say Ohio, then maybe your ranting will have some relevance. the income tax is about the only one that is really useful for buying votes by telling the many that only the rates on the few will go up
    There is no such thing as "the most politically relevant tax" except in the minds of wingnuts
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They get plenty of benefits all the same. Not sure they need additional benefits. but, we're not talking about any major increase here, and what obama says is next to nothing to what those who demonize workers have said.

    The point is, we need both cuts in spending and increase in revenue. That would be least painful at the top than at the bottom. When they need heavy lifting at my house, they call me. Why? Becasuse I can do it easier than the 5 year old grandchild can. I have no problem with that, just as I have no problem paying more than those who make less.
    I sure don't get any extra benefits. And its blatantly dishonest to claim the top one percent are not paying their fair share.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no such thing as "the most politically relevant tax" except in the minds of wingnuts
    I really couldn't care what an extremist thinks. The fact is, the income tax is the tax most useful to politicians to divide and conquer and to buy the votes of the public

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I really couldn't care what an extremist thinks.
    We don't care what you think either

    The fact is, the income tax is the tax most useful to politicians to divide and conquer and to buy the votes of the public
    Your grasp of the facts is laughable
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I sure don't get any extra benefits. And its blatantly dishonest to claim the top one percent are not paying their fair share.
    Is it? Not so sure that is true. But, again, we're nto talking abut any serious increase. Those making that type of money won't likely notice it, and they do benefit a lot from government. it's just hard to feel sorry for those with so much benefit from government whining, while demoning working folk, such as we've seen here on the forum and on Fox.

    The point is, the wealthy have paid more, and been fine. And no one is asking they go back to highest rates, just to where they were before the most recent cuts, a time when they were doing just fine. So, stop pretending something drastic is being asked of them.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    We don't care what you think either



    Your grasp of the facts is laughable
    we being you and what sockpuppet?

    your grasp of reality is non-existent

    tell me what other tax is constantly used to buy votes by politicians?

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