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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't disagree with you on your statement. The problem is that we have a debt today that is 100% of GDP and requests for more spending. Obama has made things worse, had his chance and now needs to be replaced. If the Republican delivers similar results he too will be replaced in 2016 and I would support it provided the alternative is better.
    So meanwhile...they both keep doing the same things over and over while we suffer from their incompetence...right?

    We can't afford anymore incompetent Presidents and Congress...and Supreme Court members.

    The laws that put them above the law...to be bought, to use their power to work in their own interest rather than ours...HAVE TO CHANGE NOW.

    No more phony reforms. Single issue legislation only.

    Stop blaming crooks who we've legally allowed to be crooks. We're the problem, we have to change our way of thinking and dealing with our elected officials.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    So meanwhile...they both keep doing the same things over and over while we suffer from their incompetence...right?

    We can't afford anymore incompetent Presidents and Congress...and Supreme Court members.

    The laws that put them above the law...to be bought, to use their power to work in their own interest rather than ours...HAVE TO CHANGE NOW.

    No more phony reforms. Single issue legislation only.

    Stop blaming crooks who we've legally allowed to be crooks. We're the problem, we have to change our way of thinking and dealing with our elected officials.
    So who is your viable alternative?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So who is your viable alternative?
    It's not WHO...

    Our political/banking/market/insurance systems are broke. First...remove outside money from political influence. Finance Reform, beginning with Repeal the Gramm, Bliley, Leach Act of 1999 and the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act of 2000.

    Gezzzz, have to run, but I can name many laws that need to be addressed TODAY...that will end political corruption and abuse.

    We'll yack later...C

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Obama has made things worse, had his chance and now needs to be replaced.
    Obama, while he needs to be replaced for other reasons, DOES NOT control the economy. Congress controls the spending and congress is the problem. The problem is people like you will continue to vote in the SAME people that are causeing the problem while giving the excuse that "their guy" isn't causing the problem.

    You hold the president in a "god-like" status without even realizing how things work. And you call other people ignorant, sheesh.

    Until people start caring about who they send to congress, even a quarter as much as they care about the presidency, nothing is going to change with a new president.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama, while he needs to be replaced for other reasons, DOES NOT control the economy. Congress controls the spending and congress is the problem. The problem is people like you will continue to vote in the SAME people that are causeing the problem while giving the excuse that "their guy" isn't causing the problem.

    You hold the president in a "god-like" status without even realizing how things work. And you call other people ignorant, sheesh.

    Until people start caring about who they send to congress, even a quarter as much as they care about the presidency, nothing is going to change with a new president.
    Don't you ever get tired of projecting inaccurate information? You don't know me but that doesn't stop you from telling me who I voted for yet ignore the reasons i voted for the individual i did vote for. You better worry about who you elect to Congress because I have no imput on your Representative. I do have a choice in President and based upon the alternatives I chose wisely and you haven't refuted that

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't you ever get tired of projecting inaccurate information? You don't know me but that doesn't stop you from telling me who I voted for yet ignore the reasons i voted for the individual i did vote for. You better worry about who you elect to Congress because I have no imput on your Representative. I do have a choice in President and based upon the alternatives I chose wisely and you haven't refuted that
    Are you saying that you never vote for republicans?

    And wrt to how you view the presidency, it's obvious that you think the president is solely responsible for the economy. You have hundreds of posts that make that argument
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Quite frankly - I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of you making statements about what others believe or have said and they you come up completely impotent to show where they said what you claim they did. And you just did it twice more.

    So I ask you again Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA are suppose to be progressive?. Not your perversion of what you think they believe. Not your twists and turns turning their ideas into something else. Not your skewed interpretation of what you think they might support or mean. A simple quote will do.
    Its amazing the inability to make easy inferences. If someone spews garbage that the entire tax system is not progressive enough and they use non progressive taxes in that evaluation its pretty obvious what they are saying

    and do you deny that there are those (such as you) that want all income subject to FICA?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Obama, while he needs to be replaced for other reasons, DOES NOT control the economy. Congress controls the spending and congress is the problem. The problem is people like you will continue to vote in the SAME people that are causeing the problem while giving the excuse that "their guy" isn't causing the problem.

    You hold the president in a "god-like" status without even realizing how things work. And you call other people ignorant, sheesh.

    Until people start caring about who they send to congress, even a quarter as much as they care about the presidency, nothing is going to change with a new president.
    There is alot in this that I agree with but think about it. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would consider running in the current (last 20 yrs) political climate. It has become a vicious environment that drags in every aspect of one's life, pure nasty. Then when someone legitimate comes along the 'establishment' (either side) kicks the to the side, ergo Buddy Rohmer (maybe).

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I do have a choice in President and based upon the alternatives I chose wisely and you haven't refuted that
    Yep you voted for Bush who DOUBLED the debt, increased the size of governmnet, and increased government spending. In other words, you chose poorly. Not only that you chose poorly TWICE. You have no credibiility in your statements.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    There is alot in this that I agree with but think about it. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would consider running in the current (last 20 yrs) political climate. It has become a vicious environment that drags in every aspect of one's life, pure nasty. Then when someone legitimate comes along the 'establishment' (either side) kicks the to the side, ergo Buddy Rohmer (maybe).
    I will agree the best people rarely get to the finishline. Our system has some problems. Money is a major problem. And so is our expectation of leaders. They don't control the economy. But I think we're on the same page here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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