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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    I see that anytime someone provides with you actual data and fact it is considered a personal attack

    You don't know the difference between fact and opinion. What you do is state data and then state your OPINION on the reason of the data.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    As I posted and you ignored 52% of the people voted for him and he had a 70% approval rating. It was the results that changed both numbers, results that you want to ignore. You always blame someone else for a liberal's own failure.
    I'd like to repost my opinions about the TOPIC, which is the STATE OF THE UNION.

    It's my opinion that you believe the US government works. Here's my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by RM
    The State of the Union speech was fruitless.

    Our fellow friends, neighbors, family members will let our nation decay into a state of chaos before they’ll admit that they’ve been had by these Yahoos in Washington. Yep, sucked, scammed, conned into believing there is more than one America.

    Which America do you live in? The Conservative America? The Liberal America? The Centralist America? Have you started hating each other enough yet?

    Meanwhile…while you’ve been duped into hating each other…the assholes in Washington and their cronies are stealing all three Americas right out from under your noses.

    The difference between you and me...you still believe that there are conservative politicians and elected officials who care enough about the citizens to correct the corrupted, totally unfair tax codes. Hell, fix America as far as that goes.

    You continue to buy into the conservative/liberal stuff all you want...but to the Washington Royalty, the owners of the castle. You are nothing but part of their live-support system.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Haven't read the thread, but I did listen to the SOU address several times.

    I agree more with Obama's vision for America than any I've seen presented by those vying for election in 2012. This address virtually assured I will be voting for Obama unless the GOP manages to get someone trustworthy and reasonable to the forefront before November.

    While I would like to see the government trimmed more than Obama envisions, his suggestion of rolling multiple agencies into a single agency is certainly a good start.

    His suggested use of the monies no longer being spent on war to rebuild the US infrastructure, promote US made goods over foreign made goods by providing both tax and start-up subsidies for making products in America and paying down the deficit resonates with me. He also called for reducing corporate taxes to encourage businesses to return to the US - a move that is long overdue.

    He also is the only one calling for the 'temporary' Bush tax cuts to actually go away. I believe the Reagan - Bush tax cuts are the reason we have the enormous deficit and doing away with them plus cutting spending is the only way we will get out of this mess. It seems no one on the right will even consider raising taxes on the wealthy.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is either printed or borrowed, how does that affect the value of the dollar you hold?
    I have some dollars in hand right now that were printed..... perhaps even borrowed.

    Let me see how they spend. (goes into store)

    (returns from store)

    HOORAY!!!!!! They took 'em. No problem.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As I posted and you ignored 52% of the people voted for him and he had a 70% approval rating. It was the results that changed both numbers, results that you want to ignore. You always blame someone else for a liberal's own failure.
    When you pretend to reply to something you reproduce, do you even make a halfway attempt at speaking to it... it least as a lame pretense?

    I told you that Republicans were determined to defeat him BEFORE he ever took office. You said that was just my opinion. You were just proven wrong AGAIN with the Limbaugh column which came before Inauguration day 2009.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    This does not speak top my position which is as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    In a nutshell, I like these:

    "1. Removing tax deductions for shipping jobs overseas and providing new incentives for bringing them back home;

    2. Targeting the domestic production incentive on manufacturers who create jobs here at home and doubling the deduction for advanced manufacturing;

    3. Introducing a new Manufacturing Communities Tax Credit to encourage investments in communities affected by job loss;

    4. Providing temporary tax credits to drive nearly $20 billion in domestic clean energy manufacturing;

    5. Reauthorizing 100% expensing of investment in plants and equipment;

    6. Closing a loophole that allows companies to shift profits overseas."

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How do you know what the rich do with their money? Does charitable giving go up or down when taxes are cut? What a business does with their money is not your concern nor should it be. The problem you cannot seem to grasp is that it isn't the Federal Taxpayers responsibility to solve your state and local problems.
    We've had studies, and I've presented them to you before.

    And don't go off topic if you can help it.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Yes, they sure do, with their payroll taxes and those payroll taxes are supposed to go into the Al Gore "lock box" for use in the future. It is a future obligation that now has IOU's supporting it, all because of the unified budget
    You might want to go back and review the context of the lock boxed issue. Bush unlocked that box. Just thought you should know.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You don't know the difference between fact and opinion. What you do is state data and then state your OPINION on the reason of the data.
    Interesting that your opinion of the data then is fact whereas my opinion of the data is fiction. The problem is the data is the data and we are into the fourth year of the Obama Administration and for some reason higher unemployment, lower employment, declining labor force, more discouraged workers, higher misery index, and 4.6 trillion added to the debt are positive results because according to a liberal things could have been worse. That isn't leadership and anyone who has ever been in a leadership position knows.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You might want to go back and review the context of the lock boxed issue. Bush unlocked that box. Just thought you should know.
    No, LBJ opened the lockbox by putting SS on budget and making it part of a unified budget

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