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    The focus should be on the cost to the American people for having 2.5 trillion dollars in unfunded IOU's
    Why should that claim be the focus?
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    WHO isn't paying FIT? And why?
    People taking advantage of current U.S. tax laws and deductions. For those that believe we have a revenue problem, that is where you start to look for more revenue, not to those already paying most of the FIT now.

    I believe we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem and you cannot address the deficit until you first address spending. Politicians always need to buy votes to keep their jobs so they do it by spending. Anyone that thinks more revenue is going to solve the problem is naive, gullible, and borders on being an idiot.

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    He has had a lot of practice at it, he started campaigning for the office he now holds the day he took his job in the State Senate of Illinois and hasn't stopped since. This campaigner in chief has fooled a lot of people with is campaign rhetoric, too bad these people ignore the failed results.
    Many on the opposite side were determined he failed even before he took office and began the campaing against him the day after the election.
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    Why should that claim be the focus?
    because it is the heart of the problem, SS and Medicare money put on budget to fund programs those taxes were never supposed to fund as part of a unified budget

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    Many on the opposite side were determined he failed even before he took office and began the campaing against him the day after the election.
    That is your opinion, he got 52% of the vote and had an approval rating of over 70% before people saw what he was going to implement. It is his policies that have been a failure and that is what you want to ignore.

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    because it is the heart of the problem, SS and Medicare money put on budget to fund programs those taxes were never supposed to fund as part of a unified budget
    And what do you want done with SS and the legal obligations of the government to the people in the program?
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    That is your opinion, he got 52% of the vote and had an approval rating of over 70% before people saw what he was going to implement. It is his policies that have been a failure and that is what you want to ignore.
    It is not my opinion. It is fact from the historical record.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The focus should be on the cost to the American people for having 2.5 trillion dollars in unfunded IOU's
    PLEASE NOTE...I stated the following: NOBODY IN AMERICA ESCAPES PAYING TAXES OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER That was followed by a list of very 170 ways the government gets into our pockets, and applies to the poor to the rich.

    But you love making your arguments all about mostly "poor" people who you say live off the system don't pay their fair share of...LETS SAY "FEDERAL INCOME TAX".

    All Americans...everybody is taxed in one way or another...period.

    If they weren't paying, your government would be out of street corners begging for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And what do you want done with SS and the legal obligations of the government to the people in the program?
    First i want SS and Medicare taken off budget and put where it belongs along with the FICA taxes that fund it. That would be a good start and then you take the ax to the rest of the budget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    PLEASE NOTE...I stated the following: NOBODY IN AMERICA ESCAPES PAYING TAXES OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER That was followed by a list of very 170 ways the government gets into our pockets, and applies to the poor to the rich.

    But you love making your arguments all about mostly "poor" people who you say live off the system don't pay their fair share of...LETS SAY "FEDERAL INCOME TAX".

    All Americans...everybody is taxed in one way or another...period.

    If they weren't paying, your government would be out of street corners begging for money.
    Yes, people escape paying taxes all the time by changing their buying habits and actions. Don't do most of what you posted and you don't pay those taxes. How many poor people that don't drive a car pay excise taxes on gasoline? Taxes for use is a good thing and use taxes such as Gasoline taxes should be used to fund their intent, highway and bridge construction and repair.

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