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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So basically this thread is dedicated to a poster that fawns at every minor quip by the speaker, and a range of posters who are ready to curse his name. Did I miss anything?
    Nope, carry on.


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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Man, Obama is tearing up the place tonight!!! And Boehner looks like he's trying to swallow a cat!

    Anybody watching this???
    Obama owns the place for all intent and purposes. Boehner looks as though he is one of those defendants who knows he is guilty, knows the judge knows that he is guilty, and knows the jury knows that he is guilty. The obstructor and thief of the House is getting his lunch eaten.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by usda select View Post
    Obama owns the place for all intent and purposes. Boehner looks as though he is one of those defendants who knows he is guilty, knows the judge knows that he is guilty, and knows the jury knows that he is guilty. The obstructor and thief of the House is getting his lunch eaten.
    Boehner looks like a man who realized that the assclown in front of him is ruining america and that Obama's fawning toadies are too enamored with Obama's bashing the wealthy to realize that the clown is pissing on America

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
    Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

    That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Want to bet how the fact check comes out on this?
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yes!! $25 donation to DP!! Just to nail it down, from the transcript, this is exactly what he said:

    Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.
    Full Text And Word Cloud Of Obama's State Of The Union | ZeroHedge
    Cat's Weasel #1 --

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    OK, I'll go with his exact wording and it has to be rated completely false. Deal?
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Nope. If that statement is not 100% correct, you pay. I know your little tricks.

    Seriously, you and I both know that's not correct. Now, change the wording to what he said earlier in the speech, to (paraphrased) "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," is possibly correct. His second statement? A lie. And don't say it was a mistake -- since the text of his speech was released beforehand. It was written that way. And it was written that way on purpose.

    So. If not 100% correct, you pay. Deal?

    **It occurs to me they may not even rate it...since surely she hasn't released her income tax return.
    Cat's Weasel #2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If we go with his statement "Warren Buffett pays less of a % in taxes on his income than his secretary," yes, that is what I know to be true. Deal?

    Just as Mitt Romney pays a lesser tax rate than someone making $50,000 a year that you were sure was wrong, so you should have no doubts, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No deal. -- And you're parting shot off the bow that I was wrong isn't right either. You're batting zero.

    BTW, do you know what percentage Warren Buffett pays on his income? That answer would be, "No." Do you know what percentage the secretary pays on her income? That answer would also be, "No."

    Anyhow, I thought we had a sure contribution to DP on your behalf. But you weaseled...
    And biggest weasel of all...completely changes bet to discussion on another thread --

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not willing to put your money where your position was earlier today???

    Warren Buffett, like Romney, gets most of his income from investments, therefore I know his tax rate is going to be somewhere close to 15%, as was Romneys.
    And I know that his secretary who is required to pay both income taxes and payroll taxes on her entire income, that we she wlll have a tax bill higher than Buffett's 15%.

    And I am willing to bet that my claim, and Obama's, is correct. Why are you not willing to bet I am wrong as you maintained earlier?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
    Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

    That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News
    That must be serious stuff, I didn't know it was possible to puke on the mere premise of a politician, possibly telling a lie, I mean after all it must be a rare occurrence, is it not?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Cat's Weasel #1 --





    Cat's Weasel #2:





    And biggest weasel of all...completely changes bet to discussion on another thread --
    i saw a weasel present within that post

    it was NOT catawba
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    the Romney tax thread proved that some posters are not only going to lie over this they are going to engage in premeditated dishonesty.

    comparing all the taxes a 50K a year earner pays-state and federal (who has about a 4% effective FIT rate) with only the 15% rate a rich investor pays (which does not count property taxes, state income taxes, state sales taxes and of course the death tax at the federal and state level which often can be millions up millions) is patently dishonest

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    Boehner looks like a man who realized that the assclown in front of him is ruining america and that Obama's fawning toadies are too enamored with Obama's bashing the wealthy to realize that the clown is pissing on America
    Yes, it's tearing him up.



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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i saw a weasel present within that post

    it was NOT catawba
    there you have it DP members. an objective assessment of the issue

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Asks for a bill to ban insider trading by congress and he'd sign it tomorrow.

    For those of you who do not know about this...






    A bunch of other proposals of getting money out of politics that sounded great. Not expecting much on it though.
    Just a couple of points 1) Insider trading is already illegal ask Martha Stewart.
    2) Is this NEW law to ban Insider trading by members of Congress? or simply an extension of the law for everyone else who is not an elected politician or Union Boss?

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