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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You still dishonestly refuse to acknowledge that income taxes make up less than half of federal revenues. Only 14% of the country pay no federal taxes, and they are our poor seniors and the disabled.

    Just what kind of party is it that would impose greater hardship on poor seniors and the disabled to further lower the taxes for the rich?
    nothing dishonest there -the dishonesty is you and a couple other extremists who pretend that non-progressive taxes such as sales taxes on the state level or the pseudo tax called FICA is supposed to be progresssive.

    and your appeal to emotobabble ignores the obvious conclusions of your rant-using that "logic" you can justify the rich paying everyone's FICA and other taxes.

    Wrapped up in your ranting is your assumption that the current levels of spending are proper and have to be maintained and thus only the rich should have to continue to pay more and more and more to keep those levels up

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly does that mean? So it is backed meaning that the people will get the dollars associated with the obligations owed them, the question is however what will those dollars be worth?
    Actually that is an entirely separate question from the government honor its its debts and obligations to the citizens of the USA.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Actually it more YOU that has a problem, and we are not voting up the rates of the "rest"........ only the top 1%.
    You guys got enough freebies to last a lifetime under Bush. At least you'll have your memories, you knew it couldn't last.
    what moronic nonsense. its people like you who have to pay more so you learn that if you want more government its time you pay more for it rather than demanding others continue to be taxed to pay for your wants

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    Hmm, seems to me that he has some company from the far left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You were at least born and had a chance at having a say.
    The comparison is not equivalent.

    I, nor anyone else in my generation had a say.
    You have never voted or had the opportunity to vote?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nothing dishonest there -the dishonesty is you and a couple other extremists who pretend that non-progressive taxes such as sales taxes on the state level or the pseudo tax called FICA is supposed to be progresssive.
    Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA is suppose to be progressive?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA is suppose to be progressive?
    its an obvious conclusion when people try to incorporate those taxes into claims that the poor pay X amount of their income in taxes and that the total tax system is "not progressive enough"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its an obvious conclusion when people try to incorporate those taxes into claims that the poor pay X amount of their income in taxes and that the total tax system is "not progressive enough"
    Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA are suppose to be progressive?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA are suppose to be progressive?
    If you are unable to understand the obvious --that if someone is whining the "system needs to be more progressive" or that if they are whining that all taxes combined leads to less progressivity than they want I really cannot make it any clearer

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you are unable to understand the obvious --that if someone is whining the "system needs to be more progressive" or that if they are whining that all taxes combined leads to less progressivity than they want I really cannot make it any clearer
    Quite frankly - I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of you making statements about what others believe or have said and they you come up completely impotent to show where they said what you claim they did. And you just did it twice more.

    So I ask you again Could you quote the persons who maintain what you allege they maintain - that sales taxes and FICA are suppose to be progressive?. Not your perversion of what you think they believe. Not your twists and turns turning their ideas into something else. Not your skewed interpretation of what you think they might support or mean. A simple quote will do.
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