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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    42% of total revenue comes from individual income tax.
    Yep, that's what I said, less than half.


    But, since you insist that Social Security is part of income tax, well, then the total is 82%.
    I never said SS is part of income tax, I said it is a federal tax that goes into the general fund, just like income taxes do.

    Karma's a bitch.
    Yep. That's why it was so cool to prove you wrong on Romney and Buffet!


    Oh, and 47% of filers pay no income tax at all. As Enola says, "Calling Doctors Google, Bing and Google...."
    No one said they didn't.

    But only 14% pay no federal taxes, and they are our poor seniors and the disabled.


    You are a glutton for punishment!
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Wouldn't it be easier to just admit I'm right and the Conservatives have nothing that'll help America? Well, it'll help those in the top 2%, but the rest of us can go to hell.
    Actually it is much easier stating you are wrong. Apparently you have no clue how the private sector works as it is results oriented and results matter a lot more than the rhetoric. That puts us at exact opposites. I look at results and how those results were generated and you buy the rhetoric ignoring the results.

    Like most liberals you always want to divide people into classes. As a conservative it is very frustrating to be working so hard for people like you to keep more of what you earn. Not sure why or if you went to college but I went there with the idea of making a better life for myself and my family. I never cared what someone else has or what they pay in taxes. I always learned to celebrate success including successes of people like you if there ever was such a thing.

    This country was built on rugged individualism and self reliance. There always were consequences for failure but apparently not in your world. The only thing preventing you or any other liberal for joining the top 2% is your attitude and probably work ethic. If I wanted the rest of you to go to hell, I would be supporting Obama and liberalism plus I would care if you joined those of us that have produced in upper income.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well for one, about 40 IQ points.
    Well yeah, now that Perry, Cain and Bachmann are out!
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Wouldn't it be easier to just admit I'm right and the Conservatives have nothing that'll help America? Well, it'll help those in the top 2%, but the rest of us can go to hell.
    They are no longer even bothering to disguise it!
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actually it is much easier stating you are wrong. [warning: incoming ad hominem attack!!] Apparently you have no clue how the private sector works as it is results oriented and results matter a lot more than the rhetoric. That puts us at exact opposites. I look at results and how those results were generated and you buy the rhetoric ignoring the results.

    [Alert! incoming ad hominem barrage!! With a side order of self parody!!!] Like most liberals you always want to divide people into classes. As a conservative it is very frustrating to be working so hard for people like you to keep more of what you earn. [AOOOGAH! Please muster to ad hominem stations immediately!!] Not sure why or if you went to college but I went there with the idea of making a better life for myself and my family. I never cared what someone else has or what they pay in taxes. I always learned to celebrate success including successes of people like you if there ever was such a thing.

    This country was built on rugged individualism and self reliance. There always were consequences for failure [All hands to ad hominem stations!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL, FOLKS!!] but apparently not in your world. The only thing preventing you or any other liberal for joining the top 2% is your attitude and probably work ethic. If I wanted the rest of you to go to hell, I would be supporting Obama and liberalism plus I wouldn't care if you joined those of us that have produced in upper income..
    Wow, what an insightful, not at all hyperpartisan response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I look at results and how those results were generated and you buy the rhetoric ignoring the results.
    BS. You don't look at results.

    By November, 2004, the Twin Towers were gone. Osama bin Laden escaped from Bush's clutch's in Tora Bora. Bush had invaded a country for no valid reason. The budget went from a 236 billion surplus to a 412 billion dollar deficit. The unemployment rate had increased 1.6 points from 4.2% to 5.8%. There were 2.2 million additional people unemployed. Bush had droped from a 90% JAR to a 51% JAR.

    And you had to ignore those results to vote to give Bush 4 more years.

    Hypocrite; thy name be Conservative.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Wow, what an insightful, not at all hyperpartisan response.
    You forgot the patented strawman but that's headed for the DP classics anyway.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, the data I posted shows a net private sector job loss after three years of Obamanomics not the plus gains you are showing.
    You posted Series Id: CES0500000001 and that's what I posted, Con. I went clicked on the More Formatting Options then I chose 1-Month Net Change. Sadly, you don't know WTF you're talking about.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    BS. You don't look at results.

    By November, 2004, the Twin Towers were gone. Osama bin Laden escaped from Bush's clutch's in Tora Bora. Bush had invaded a country for no valid reason. The budget went from a 236 billion surplus to a 412 billion dollar deficit. The unemployment rate had increased 1.6 points from 4.2% to 5.8%. There were 2.2 million additional people unemployed. Bush had droped from a 90% JAR to a 51% JAR.

    And you had to ignore those results to vote to give Bush 4 more years.

    Hypocrite; thy name be Conservative.
    Six months after 911 Bush said he no longer cared about Bin Laden, he had bigger fish to fry - Saddam Hussein. The problem was that Bush's daddy already did that. He had the sense to get out of Dodge after that.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post

    You posted Series Id: CES0500000001 and that's what I posted, Con. I went clicked on the More Formatting Options then I chose 1-Month Net Change. Sadly, you don't know WTF you're talking about.
    I've asked him many times what Obama did to cause those millions to lose their job during his first few months ... as you can probably guess, he responded with his usual robospam and not an actual answer to my question -- which remains unanswered. He really doesn't have a clue to what he's talking about.

    I don't know if you saw earlier, but he claimed GDP increased 4.5 trillion under Bush. When called on it, he changed his numbers to match what the BEA actually posts.

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