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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Now if you only would stop calling any honest mistake a lie, you would almost be human and thus more credible. The 14.4 trillion was the orginal numbers before revisions and I did not change the numbers. 9.951 trillion to 14.291 trillion paints a much different picture of the Bush years than those with BDS like you would admit.
    How can that be an honest mistake? No one here posts BEA and BLS numbers more than you. One would expect you would at least post the actual numbers without being prodded into doing so.

    That aside, you're also lying by referencing nominal figures and then claiming no one has increased GDP more -- as though nominal figures have any meaning when comparing over time.

    They don't because they ignore inflation. Any honest person would post real GDP, but that apparently excludes you. Apparently, you possess no compunction of comparing 2008 dollars with dollars from other years as though they're equal.




    And here's why you refuse to honestly post real GDP ...



    Real GDP growth = 1,945.5

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    He also took us to war over WMD that weren't in Iraq. That cost America roughly another 5,000 lives.

    The righties' idea of a "good president," though.
    It also cost between $1T (direct) and $3T (including indirect costs). Now we have late night debates on how to recover $1T from the deficit over 10 years. If only we had just not had this pointless war.

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    It also cost between $1T (direct) and $3T (including indirect costs). Now we have late night debates on how to recover $1T from the deficit over 10 years. If only we had just not had this pointless war.
    So because of your hatred for GW Bush and the war you would vote for an incompetent Community Organizer whose record is a disaster? Really is too bad as he seems like a very congenial individual who is just in without a clue how to manage anything or provide any kind of leadership other than divisive behavior and policies

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, biggest lie so far: "Warren Buffett's secretary pays more taxes than Warren Buffett." Puke.
    Second biggest: "I'm going to make sure that banks help people refinance their homes. They can save $3,000 a year through refinancing. Banks should be doing this to pay back the American people!!" Puke.

    That's a paraphrase, by the way. Here's the full text: TRANSCRIPT State of the Union 2012: President Obama's Full Speech as Prepared for Delivery - ABC News
    Warren Buffett's Secretary Likely Makes Between $200,000 And $500,000/Year

    Warren Buffet’s secretary, Debbie Bosanek, served as a stage prop for President Obama’s State of the Union speech. She was the President’s chief display of the alleged unfairness of our tax system – a little person paying a higher tax rate than her billionaire boss.

    One has to wonder how many 'little' people who work as a Secretary earn this amount of money, not that many I would warrant.

    However I am certain that this lady earns that which she receives in recompense from Warren Buffett!

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So because of your hatred for GW Bush and the war you would vote for an incompetent Community Organizer whose record is a disaster? Really is too bad as he seems like a very congenial individual who is just in without a clue how to manage anything or provide any kind of leadership other than divisive behavior and policies
    Actually, he has proven himself quite competent... doing a decent job fixing the mess left by the last guy (see employment trends chart below). Not to mention, he is heads and shoulders above the clowns the opposition have put up. Given that they are playing the "B" team, its clear they conceded the election to set themselves up for 2016. Sit back, relax and enjoy 4 more years.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post
    You still do not understand.

    The Treasury Securities in the SS "trust fund" are government liabilities, intragovernmental debt. The government owes money to itself.

    Basically, the governemnt took the surplus revenues, spent them on other government programs, and then replaced them with promissory notes that can only be financed in three ways: Increasing tax revenues, reappropriating funds from other government programs, or borrowing money.

    In 2000, the Clinton Administration's Office of Management and Budget explained why the "trust fund" is nothing more than a meaningless bookkeeping entry:



    Please tell me you understand now.

    Brian
    "The existence of large trust fund balances, therefore, does not, by itself, have any impact on the Government's ability to pay benefits."

    I think that about covers it, thanks for the clarification.
    The U.S. Govts. word is as good as gold and always will be. A truly "exceptional" nation could have it no other way.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    upsideguy;1060145743]Actually, he has proven himself quite competent... doing a decent job fixing the mess left by the last guy (see employment trends chart below). Not to mention, he is heads and shoulders above the clowns the opposition have put up. Given that they are playing the "B" team, its clear they conceded the election to set themselves up for 2016. Sit back, relax and enjoy 4 more years
    You don't even know what that chart shows. Why don't you go to BLS and find that chart you referenced? Keep buying the liberal rhetoric which makes you look foolish.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't even know what that chart shows. Why don't you go to BLS and find that chart you referenced? Keep buying the liberal rhetoric which makes you look foolish.


    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Let me know when we have more private sector jobs than we had when Obama took office and then when the recession started?

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    That elevator was plummeting when this President stepped aboard and turned it upward again. It takes time to arrest a fall that rapid.
    Don't work out, work in.

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