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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Can I cut the military? How much?
    There isn't one department in our Federal government (state as well) that couldn't take a 10% haircut. Not one! Is that enough? $3.83 trillion. 10% cut across the board saves $383,000,000. Start there.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Single payer limits coverage choices, typically to whatever it decides is most cost efficient.
    How is that different from private insurance, except that the cost through a single payer system is half as expensive?

    A single payers restricts access to newer, more effective, but more costly treatments or cures.
    It has to, in order to keep costs in check. The thing is, when you do that, it delays the eventually drop in cost of those newer treatments and cures
    No, all the comparisons I have seen rate access greater to all citizens through a single payer system.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    either way, if the poor and middle class were subjected to tax hikes everytime the government spent more the mass of voters would start punishing big spenders (no matter what party)
    Egzakly!!!
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No, it did not.

    You never stop lying, do you?
    Then Tell the BEA they have the numbers wrong

    Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
    [Billions of dollars]

    Last Revised on: December 22, 2011 - Next Release Date January 27, 2012
    Line 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
    1 Gross domestic product 9,951.5 10,286.2 10,642.3 11,142.2 11,853.3 12,623.0 13,377.2 14,028.7 14,291.5

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True. And studies show taxes don't really hinder that. People buying is the major ingredient business needs to grow. If they have buyers, they will grow no matter what government does in the context of what tax increases we're speaking of. The small increases we speak of won't really matter at all.
    If it doesn't matter that much, why do it?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    feel free to try to put me there if that is what you want. but that sort of stupid comment doesn't alleviate your other comment's stupidity. its the dems who are increasing costs on productive people
    The poor don't make laws, TD. And if I'm too far off base, we've had hundreds of elected officials, including mucho bunches of so-called conservatives, over the past couple of hundred years...using the poor as an excuse to use the General Welfare Clause to appropriate unbelievable amounts of money...money taken from most all citizens in one way or another to continue to empower themselves...at our expense.

    The poor pay 40 cents a gallon federal tax...just like you do...and I can name a lot of other ways that they pay. So put the blame where it belongs.

    There's not a single conservative in government that gives a rats ass about you...or your money...unless, unless you believe their bull**** enough to contribute big bucks for them to continue their corruption and holding us all hostage in order to pay for their uncontrollable hunger for power.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The poor don't make laws, TD. And if I'm too far off base, we've had hundreds of elected officials, including mucho bunches of so-called conservatives, over the past couple of hundred years...using the poor as an excuse to use the General Welfare Clause to appropriate unbelievable amounts of money...money taken from most all citizens in one way or another to continue to empower themselves...at our expense.

    The poor pay 40 cents a gallon federal tax...just like you do...and I can name a lot of other ways that they pay. So put the blame where it belongs.

    There's not a single conservative in government that gives a rats ass about you...or your money...unless, unless you believe their bull**** enough to contribute big bucks for them to continue their corruption and holding us all hostage in order to pay for their uncontrollable hunger for power.
    actually there is a US senator who takes my phone calls and a congressman too.

    but the tax system is broken and that is the main point

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually there is a US senator who takes my phone calls and a congressman too.

    but the tax system is broken and that is the main point
    I feel blessed, TD...really. Yes, the tax laws are broken, but please be genuine about who broke them....and continues to break them.

    Since you know da man...then do us all a favor...tell them if they want to continue to **** us all...at least appropriate enough to buy KY for all. I'm getting a little chapped myself.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then Tell the BEA they have the numbers wrong

    Table 1.1.5. Gross Domestic Product
    [Billions of dollars]

    Last Revised on: December 22, 2011 - Next Release Date January 27, 2012
    Line 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
    1 Gross domestic product 9,951.5 10,286.2 10,642.3 11,142.2 11,853.3 12,623.0 13,377.2 14,028.7 14,291.5
    Hey would ya look at that?? These numbers don't match the last numbers you posted before.

    Thank you for correcting your mistake.

    Now if you could only stop lyng and post real numbers you'd demonstrate some progress.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Hey would ya look at that?? These numbers don't match the last numbers you posted before.

    Thank you for correcting your mistake.

    Now if you could only stop lyng and post real numbers you'd demonstrate some progress.
    Now if you only would stop calling any honest mistake a lie, you would almost be human and thus more credible. The 14.4 trillion was the orginal numbers before revisions and I did not change the numbers. 9.951 trillion to 14.291 trillion paints a much different picture of the Bush years than those with BDS like you would admit.

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