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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    making the rich pay more to seduce the votes from the envious has nothing to do with making things less costly for the unproductive or those truly unable to "afford it"
    TD, I have to put on my fishing waders just to read your post...

    I say what I say....because for all you know...I might a part of the 1%. Join Mr. Buffett and me...how about. Shed this whatever it is you have about the so called claims about the abuse imposed on the rich in this nation by the poor. That all things are equal in opportunity nonsense...

    Without the poor, the rich can't be rich.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't think govt. increases costs on people? Do you really think that people not paying any FIT have any concern about raising FIT on those that do? When you take all the money from those evil rich people who then funds your pet projects?
    Lol and you think the wealthy have any problems raising the costs on those that can't afford it?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post
    And who was in control of the Congress during those years?

    Brian
    It was the congress that pushed for raising taxes and slashing military spending? If so, how do we convince this congress to do the same?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    While I agree in principle, I have to disagree in effect.
    The government is not responsible, nor are it's beneficiaries.

    So, we gotta do, what we gotta do.
    Well, Harry, that's one of the problems. We seem to placate to the government's irresponsibilities. As the old saying goes... "If there are no consequences for inappropriate behavior...why stop?"

    It's my contention that when we refuse to placate to the government's irresponsibilities, we'll begin to see more appropriate behaviors.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Lol and you think the wealthy have any problems raising the costs on those that can't afford it?
    What forces you to buy from those evil rich people?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Raising costs on people that can't afford it is like squeezing blood from a turnip. That isn't going to lower costs either.
    If the poor faced taxes that would increase when they voted for big spending democrats that would do far more to reduce the deficit than the asswipe in chief's claim that raising taxes on those who pay too much will

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well, Harry, that's one of the problems. We seem to placate to the government's irresponsibilities. As the old saying goes... "If there are no consequences for inappropriate behavior...why stop?"

    It's my contention that when we refuse to placate to the government's irresponsibilities, we'll begin to see more appropriate behaviors.
    Your going to have to convince the constituency of the government to be more responsible.
    Good luck.

    Like I said, I totally agree in principle, but the rest of the country doesn't want to accept their fair share of blame, for their damage, they've done.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What forces you to buy from those evil rich people?
    For some, their very lives depend on healthcare. But then you only care about the almighty dollar and not people.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    For some, their very lives depend on healthcare. But then you only care about the almighty dollar and not people.
    that's the typical rot from the left. the nonsense that they care about people and not money complete bs

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Because it was spent. Because government is unable to live within its means. Because the rate of spending growth has shot through the roof in the last 20 years. Take your pick or all of the above. D is looking pretty accurate to me.

    Tax cuts are NOT responsible, government spending IS. I keep hearing Cat saying it was because revenue dropped, well what the heck is wrong with government spending less money? Have we ever tried actually cutting spending or have we only slowed spending growth? Im going with option 2 on that question. We have never actually cut spending. We have only slowed spending growth.

    How and why is this hard to understand?
    There are two sides to a ledger. It is not possible, nor would it be fair, to balance the budget on the backs of those that didn't enjoy majority of tax cuts over the last 30 years. SS has responsible for our debt that senior have paid into all their lives so why should they sacrifice so the rich can continue to enjoy their tax cuts?
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