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State of the Union Address

Conservative said:
Did you read the article? A reduction in troops and military equipment equated to a savings that benefited Clinton but as usual you want to divert from the Obama record. Don't blame you. Doesn't it phase you that if all those so called promises kept hasn't equated into a much better job approval rating? The reality is the results I posted affect the people a lot more and are why his approval ratings aren't that great.
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Do you realize the Budget actually went up? In fact it never goes down. This funds mansions outside DC in Virginia.
 
Conservative said:
that isn't the point, the point is it has been posted here all those promises kept by Obama and yet his JAR is only 46% which just shows how accurate those promises kept are. The real issue remains net employment loss, net unemployment gain, declining labor force, high discouraged workers, 4.6 trillion added to the debt with another 1.1 trillion predicted for 2012, and a higher misery index. people don't feel he has kept his promises due to the actual results that are verifiable.
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But his results have produced the same job approval rating as the last three presidents at this same point in their presidency? Did they fail to keep their word?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
But his results have produced the same job approval rating as the last three presidents at this same point in their presidency? Did they fail to keep their word?
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The issue is the claim that Obama has kept so many of his promises when the reality is he hasn't kept the promises that matter, economic results that benefit the American people.
 
Conservative said:
The issue is the claim that Obama has kept so many of his promises when the reality is he hasn't kept the promises that matter, economic results that benefit the American people.
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Thats OK,he has for four plus years to correct that.
 
treedancer said:
Thats OK,he has for four plus years to correct that.
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And this is why he should be fired

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
His JAR is right in line with the last three presidents at this point in their respective presidencies according to Gallup. Two of whom you voted for.

Obama: 46%
Bush: 49%
Clinton: 46%
GHWBush: 46%
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I feel like the Sesame Street song, 'One of these things is not like the other' should be playing here....Tell us, which President that you listed here was re elected with Unemployment over 8%, and Gas costing over $3 per gallon?


any of them? Eh? Buler? Buler?


j-mac
 
Conservative said:
And this is why he should be fired

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did
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And still, by a factor of roughly 2 to 1, people blame Bush over Obama for those numbers.

Btw, Romney just won Florida and there's a good chance he's going to be the GOP nominee.

:cool::cool::cool:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
And still, by a factor of roughly 2 to 1, people blame Bush over Obama for those numbers.

Btw, Romney just won Florida and there's a good chance he's going to be the GOP nominee.

:cool::cool::cool:
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Romney has my support but if he doesn't get the nomination whoever the GOP nominates is better than the one in the WH right now. There is nothing economically that Obama is doing that I support and the results which most Obama supporters want to ignore and will try to divert from.
 
j-mac said:
I feel like the Sesame Street song, 'One of these things is not like the other' should be playing here....Tell us, which President that you listed here was re elected with Unemployment over 8%, and Gas costing over $3 per gallon?


any of them? Eh? Buler? Buler?


j-mac
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How about if I just tell you the one who's running with those statistics who leads everyone running against him in the polls?
 
Conservative said:
Romney has my support but if he doesn't get the nomination whoever the GOP nominates is better than the one in the WH right now. There is nothing economically that Obama is doing that I support and the results which most Obama supporters want to ignore and will try to divert from.
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No doubt you believe Conservatism is better than Liberalism, so why do you suppose it is that the left can not only nominate the most Liberal Senator in the Congress, but can get him elected president; while the right can only nominate the most Liberal of all the contenders running (for the second presidential election in a row).

What's wrong with Conservatism that the right can't get a Conservative candidate nominated to run for president?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
How about if I just tell you the one who's running with those statistics who leads everyone running against him in the polls?
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I am sitting here watching the Next President of the United States, Mitt Romney, giving his speech after winning Florida. Those poll numbers show Mitt within the margin of error vs. Obama and those poll numbers will change after this election today in his favor. What an outstanding speech. Too bad liberals don't understand leadership because we are seeing it on the stage right now.

When the nomination is secured, then your polls will be more meaningful in comparing Obama to Romney
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No doubt you believe Conservatism is better than Liberalism, so why do you suppose it is that the left can not only nominate the most Liberal Senator in the Congress, but can get him elected president; while the right can only nominate the most Liberal of all the contenders running (for the second presidential election in a row).

What's wrong with Conservatism that the right can't get a Conservative candidate nominated to run for president?
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Because the most liberal Senator in the Congress didn't run as a liberal, ran as a moderate and fooled a lot of people. His rhetoric even today doesn't match his results and that is why his support is well below what he won the election by and that is the measuring stick that matters.
 
Conservative said:
I am sitting here watching the Next President of the United States, Mitt Romney, giving his speech after winning Florida. Those poll numbers show Mitt within the margin of error vs. Obama and those poll numbers will change after this election today in his favor. What an outstanding speech. Too bad liberals don't understand leadership because we are seeing it on the stage right now.

When the nomination is secured, then your polls will be more meaningful in comparing Obama to Romney
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Are you talking about the Bain leveraged buyout king?
 
pbrauer said:
Are you talking about the Bain leveraged buyout king?
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yep, saving companies or making the tough decisions is what leadership is all about.
Obama was hired to lead, decided to follow, and is now needs to get out of the way.
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Too bad you have spent too much time on the left coast that you don't understand capitalism.
 
Con,

We have never had a president that claimed openly he was pro-life. Do you believe he can win with such a stance?
 
pbrauer said:
Con,

We have never had a president that claimed openly he was pro-life. Do you believe he can win with such a stance?
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I believe he can win and will win as the alternative of 4 more years of Obama is repulsive.
 
Conservative said:
I am sitting here watching the Next President of the United States, Mitt Romney, giving his speech after winning Florida. Those poll numbers show Mitt within the margin of error vs. Obama and those poll numbers will change after this election today in his favor. What an outstanding speech. Too bad liberals don't understand leadership because we are seeing it on the stage right now.

When the nomination is secured, then your polls will be more meaningful in comparing Obama to Romney
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That was the same illogical nonsense you've been saying for sometime yet; however, despite half the names falling off that list, Romney hasn't gained any ground. What you don't understand is that the names in those polls are not mutually exclusive. That's why it doesn't matter if it's one candidate or ten, the number of candidates doesn't affect the poll numbers.
 
Conservative said:
yep, saving companies or making the tough decisions is what leadership is all about.

Too bad you have spent too much time on the left coast that you don't understand capitalism.
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Do you understand what leveraged buyouts do? They are predatory in nature; they force the debt of the onto the victim forcing them to fire people in groves. Nice huh?
 
pbrauer said:
Do you understand what leveraged buyouts do? They are predatory in nature; they force the debt of the onto the victim forcing them to fire people in groves. Nice huh?
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Do you realize that many of those companies were going bankrupt and some were saved? you don't really seem to understand leadership and capitalism at all. If you expect cradle to grave coverage and someone to give you a lot of other people's money then you have that President in the WH right now. How is that working out for the country?
 
Conservative said:
Because the most liberal Senator in the Congress didn't run as a liberal, ran as a moderate and fooled a lot of people. His rhetoric even today doesn't match his results and that is why his support is well below what he won the election by and that is the measuring stick that matters.
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Why can't you post without lying. Obama ran on wealth distribution and nationalized healthcare. How much more Liberal could he have campaigned?

And I also note that you lied to escape answering the question. The left nominates and elects their most Liberal candidate. The right can't even nominate a Conservative candidate, no less, get one elected president.

Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism?
 
pbrauer said:
Do you believe in Santa Claus as well? The Easter Bunny?
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Obviously you do because the following results are what you support

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:


Why is that if Conservatism is superior to Liberalism?
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Because I can spend my money more effeciently and effectively than a bureaucrat in D.C. and do more help to those truly in need.

because when Conservatives talk about compassionate spending they are talking about real compassionate results. liberals throw money at the problems and when those dollars don't solve the problem they ask for more and throw more at the problem
 
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Conservative said:
I believe he can win and will win as the alternative of 4 more years of Obama is repulsive.
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One more thing about Romney, he told Mike Huckabee on his week end Fox show he would favor a Constructional Amendment that would declare fertilization as the beginning of life. Do you understand how problematic this would be for most contraception? The man is a boob, he will say anything to get elected. lol
 
Conservative said:
Obviously you do because the following results are what you support

Jan-09 Dec-11
Unemployment 12049 13097
Discouraged 734 945
Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
Labor Force 154236 153887
Total Employment 142187 140790

Obama today has a net job loss
Obama today has a declining labor force
Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did
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I see old habits persist. lol
 
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