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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Conservative, you've been Bush-Wacked, dude... Not only that, you've been brainwashed to believe that your political ideology is more stable or true than the one's you demonize. Sorry, man. It's just as ****ed up. The Washington Royalty and their cronies don't care one way or the other about conservatism or liberalism. They just want to make you keep your eye on the bouncing ball so they can pick your pocket.
    i use verifiable data to support my posts, suggest you do some research to verify what you believe. The fact remains, Bush economy added 4.5 trillion to GDP which is much higher than Clinton, bea.gov. Clinton GDP 3.6 trillion, Bush GDP 9.9 trillion to 14.3 or 4.4 trillion increase

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    # Strong Economic Growth: Since President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, economic growth has averaged 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the Reagan-Bush years. The economy has grown for 116 consecutive months, the most in history.

    # Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: The economy has created more than 22.5 million jobs in less than eight years—the most jobs ever created under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent, are in the private sector.
    The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth
    True but billy the jober was blessed by the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. He had nothing to do with that event.....but he took credit for its fall out.

    Too bad he and Bush(41) were not smart enough to rescue Russia with a Marshall like plan. Very short sighted.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Medicare and medicaid, by increasing cost sharing.
    Instead of retirees paying what they do now, they can have their monthly premiums increased by $20-30 and their co pays increase by $10-20.
    So You don't want to raise taxes on the rich (who can afford it), but you want to raise costs on those that can't afford it.

    Brilliant, I say you should write all the GOP running for elections and tell them to run with that idea on the public for their campaigns.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    # Strong Economic Growth: Since President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, economic growth has averaged 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the Reagan-Bush years. The economy has grown for 116 consecutive months, the most in history.

    # Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: The economy has created more than 22.5 million jobs in less than eight years—the most jobs ever created under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent, are in the private sector.
    The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth
    LOL, Bill Clinton's own report? Imagine that, interesting that the non partisan BEA.gov disagrees with you and that report but because you are brainwashed by liberalism you ignore non partisan data.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, Bill Clinton's own report? Imagine that, interesting that the non partisan BEA.gov disagrees with you and that report but because you are brainwashed by liberalism you ignore non partisan data.
    Have you ever thought of writing the Bureau of Economic Analysis and Bureau of Labor Statistics to tell them they have the wrong numbers in their official data? Amazing how wrong one individual can be on every post

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why would we have taken $2.6 trillion from SS over the last 30 years if we had plenty of tax receipts coming in? You don't believe in paying your debts?
    Because it was spent. Because government is unable to live within its means. Because the rate of spending growth has shot through the roof in the last 20 years. Take your pick or all of the above. D is looking pretty accurate to me.

    Tax cuts are NOT responsible, government spending IS. I keep hearing Cat saying it was because revenue dropped, well what the heck is wrong with government spending less money? Have we ever tried actually cutting spending or have we only slowed spending growth? Im going with option 2 on that question. We have never actually cut spending. We have only slowed spending growth.

    How and why is this hard to understand?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So You don't want to raise taxes on the rich (who can afford it), but you want to raise costs on those that can't afford it.

    Brilliant, I say you should write all the GOP running for elections and tell them to run with that idea on the public for their campaigns.
    Class warfare and jealousy? Got it! Economic fairness to a liberal is raise taxes on the rich and increase the number of people not paying any taxes. That is liberal fairness.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So You don't want to raise taxes on the rich (who can afford it), but you want to raise costs on those that can't afford it.

    Brilliant, I say you should write all the GOP running for elections and tell them to run with that idea on the public for their campaigns.
    I said earlier I don't mind a modest tax increase.
    As long as it doesn't negatively effect economic growth.

    I don't care what the GOP says, I'm not a Republican.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Umm Single payer does limit benefits and access.

    So basically you want people to have unlimited medical benefits at a low cost.
    And if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses, every time they hopped.
    No, just a single payer system that provides health care to all at half the cost we pay, just like the rest of the industrialized world. Without this our health care cost will continue to spiral out of control.

    A single payer system lowers limit and benefits and then through private health care insurance because there is no profit and lower overhead under a single payer system. I've reviewed the comparisons between single payer systems and our own, and our quality of care for all citizens is under par compared to the single payer systems.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    i use verifiable data to support my posts, suggest you do some research to verify what you believe. The fact remains, Bush economy added 4.5 trillion to GDP which is much higher than Clinton, bea.gov. Clinton GDP 3.6 trillion, Bush GDP 9.9 trillion to 14.3 or 4.4 trillion increase

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    Okay, Conservative...I understand...really.

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