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    Re: State of the Union Address

    As usual with Obama, Delivery was an A, Content a C or D.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Prove it? You call an IOU a surplus? How do those IOU's get funded? Taxing the rich?
    Since the tax cuts required us to dip into the SS funds in the first place, where else should it logically come from?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm sure it would help. But as I said, it's also just shifting the cost onto someone else. If you cut my taxes by $100, and at the same time eliminate $100 of necessary services, it ain't all that.
    Necessary services is a nebulous term.
    Food is necessary but I pay my entire food bill.

    Just because something is necessary, doesn't mean a person can't afford to pay it, without a government program.
    We're talking about greater cost sharing, not total elimination.

    Increasing Medicare cost sharing, with higher monthly premium payments and greater co pays isn't exactly Armageddon.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    How? What is giving an inch? The daily interest on the debt is nearly 1.5 BILLION.
    Reducing spending and slightly increasing taxes to pay the interest plus a little more principle, is all that is necessary.
    Of course we can just inflate our way out of it.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Necessary services is a nebulous term.
    Food is necessary but I pay my entire food bill.

    Just because something is necessary, doesn't mean a person can't afford to pay it, without a government program.
    We're talking about greater cost sharing, not total elimination.

    Increasing Medicare cost sharing, with higher monthly premium payments and greater co pays isn't exactly Armageddon.
    Cost sharing = cost shifting = the same amount of spending with different payers.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Cost sharing = cost shifting = the same amount of spending with different payers.
    You have to add in changes in behavior.
    Something that isn't easy to account for, but has been proven to lower costs.

    It tends to reduce, unnecessary use.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Greater cost sharing by users is a good way to reign in out of control programs.
    You mean something like......................medicare? Good idea! Putting everyone on a cost sharing program like medicare is how every other industrialized nation has cut their health care cost in half.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    SS has a 2.6 trillion dollar surplus.
    I'm afraid you're gravely mistaken. The SS "trust fund" consists of special-issue Treasury Securities that, if redeemed, have to be financed with debt or new tax revenues. In essence, they are nothing more than IOUs issued by the Federal government to the Federal government. That's why it's considered "intragovernmental debt".

    I was trying to get you to discover this on your own.
    I appreciate your attempt to educate me, but I'm quite familiar with the finances of our government.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    As usual with Obama, Delivery was an A, Content a C or D.
    Agreed. Just a bunch of hot air
    Gig 'Em

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean something like......................medicare? Good idea! Putting everyone on a cost sharing program like medicare is how every other industrialized nation has cut their health care cost in half.
    No.
    I mean making Medicare beneficiaries, pay more for their services, that they use.
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