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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Fail. That does nothing to reduce costs for health care. It just reduces health care.
    I'm sorry but you can reduce costs by reducing spending.
    It does not necessarily reduce health care, maybe inefficient and unnecessary health care.

    Of course you will never, ever agree with this.
    That's why Zyph said it was a sacred cow issue to you.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does a liberal cut Federal Income taxes for someone not paying any? Absolutely amazing how you are so concerned about how much money gets to the Federal Govt. and thus is wasted by that govt.
    Nice try at moving the goal posts inside a different stadium altogether. you asked you got the biggest tax cut. I told you. The capital gains tax saved Mitt $4 million bucks. And you complain and whine about some grunt not paying a few grand because President Bush and the Republican Congress voted to have them not pay in 2001 and 2003.

    You ask questions - your get the answers - then you try to change the questions.

    Amazing really.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for your opinion!
    I wouldn't characterize it as an "opinion". It's a simple conveyance of basic arithmetic and financial principles.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Nice try at moving the goal posts inside a different stadium altogether. you asked you got the biggest tax cut. I told you. The capital gains tax saved Mitt $4 million bucks. And you complain and whine about some grunt not paying a few grand because President Bush and the Republican Congress voted to have them not pay in 2001 and 2003.

    You ask questions - your get the answers - then you try to change the questions.

    Amazing really.
    Yes you did, the rich that pay most of the taxes got a bigger tax cut than those that don't pay any FIT, Duh!

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post
    I wouldn't characterize it as an "opinion". It's a simple conveyance of basic arithmetic and financial principles.

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    Brian...just a word of caution. Basic arithmetic in DP can get you in a world of trouble. Good luck...and have fun.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The U.S. government owes the SS admin about 2.6 trillion.
    Bonds are debt instruments and the government is deeply in debt to itself.
    That's right, the general fund owes SS 2.6 Trillion, so you look for ways for the General fund to pay that money back that was taken from the fund we all paid into for retirement insurance. Since a lack of revenues due to the tax cuts for the last 30 years required us to borrow money from SS in the first place, it seems obvious where the money should come from to pay it back.

    Sounds like to me you want absolve your responsibility for this money owed to seniors.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post
    I wouldn't characterize it as an "opinion". It's a simple conveyance of basic arithmetic and financial principles.

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    His post was just a way to avoid addressing what you wrote.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's right, the general fund owes SS 2.6 Trillion, so you look for ways for the General fund to pay that money back that was taken from the fund we all paid into for retirement insurance. Since a lack of revenues due to the tax cuts for the last 30 years required us to borrow money from SS in the first place, it seems obvious where the money should come from to pay it back.

    Sounds like to me you want absolve your responsibility for this money owed to seniors.
    Broken record.
    How many times have you blamed "the tax cuts for the last 30 years" for everything?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Government spending accounts for roughly 60+% of all medical spending in the U.S.
    Soooo, cutting government spending in medical care will bring down the costs.

    And no, that doesn't mean letting people die, it means those who use government as a source of medical treatment, will have to share a greater burden of the cost.
    No, it won't bring down the costs. It will just shift the costs to someone else. If anything it will increase the costs because Medicare and the VA are more efficient than strictly private insurance.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Broken record.
    How many times have you blamed "the tax cuts for the last 30 years" for everything?
    Isn't it sad when the American worker keeping more of their own money is the reason for all the problems we have in this country today?

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