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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is she demanding things from government? If so, she is greedy, but unlike the rich man that is greedy for what he has earned, she is greedy for what she hasn't.
    I can't even tell if you're being serious anymore.
    If if a mother with three jobs can barely feed a family of four, let's be generous and say she earns 200K annually. Quite an exaggeration, but whatever. Let's say the billionaire earns 20 million a year. A massive scale-down, but again, whatever. Let's be generous again and say that the mother of three works 20 hours a week. (Yes, total between her three jobs.) for it to be fair, the billionaire would have to work 2000 hours a week. Even in such an extremely favorable circumstance for you, it's still not possible.
    So can it with the "They earned their money and the rest of you always slack off" crap.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does Romney pay a lower tax rate than you do?
    well, according to the CBO:



    the average federal tax burden for an American citizen is actually around 11% - liblady likely pays less than Romney did in all but nominal rates (which are useless).

    a good question might be - what percentage of your income do you donate to charity?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragon View Post
    I can't even tell if you're being serious anymore.
    If if a mother with three jobs can barely feed a family of four, let's be generous and say she earns 200K annually. Quite an exaggeration, but whatever. Let's say the billionaire earns 20 million a year. A massive scale-down, but again, whatever. Let's be generous again and say that the mother of three works 20 hours a week. (Yes, total between her three jobs.) for it to be fair, the billionaire would have to work 2000 hours a week. Even in an extremely favorable circumstance for you, it's still not possible.
    So can it with the "They earned their money and the rest of you always slack off" crap.
    Do you think it is my responsibility to pay for your expenses? That seems to be what you are asking or you don't have a clue where the FEderal govt. gets its money. Social problems are state and local issues, not the Federal Taxpayer's responsibilities.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Cutting military spending, but not enough, streamlining the regulatory process and health care reform. What tax increases that were recommended in the Bowles/Simpson have the GOP adopted.
    Bowles Simpson did not propose the health care reform that Obama adopted before their report. As for the tax alterations that Bowles Simpson proposed: the GOP proposed higher rates on top income earners than they did. Nor did Bowles/Simpson propose cutting a trillion dollars from the military (which even Obama's own SecDef says is "dangerous" and irresponsible).

    They did, however, propose entitlement reform - the third rail of politics that Republicans then bravely picked up. How have democrats other than Wyden done with that?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well, according to the CBO:



    the average federal tax burden for an American citizen is actually around 11% - liblady likely pays less than Romney did in all but nominal rates (which are useless).

    a good question might be - what percentage of your income do you donate to charity?
    no, my effective income tax rate is high than romney's.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: State of the Union Address

    How many ways does it take government to lie, cheat, steal, scam, and con you out of your money to pay for the Kingdom of Washington's lifestyle - before you really understand what they've done to you?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you think it is my responsibility to pay for your expenses? That seems to be what you are asking or you don't have a clue where the FEderal govt. gets its money. Social problems are state and local issues, not the Federal Taxpayer's responsibilities.
    Yes it is your responsibility. After all, you're an EMPLOYER.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragon View Post
    No **** Sherlock. It's kinda hard for, say, a single mom with three kids, and working three jobs, to contribute more money than, say, a multi-billionaire.
    And yet you accuse her of greed...
    Could someone please explain the logic in that?
    individual greed is the grease that makes everything work. the reason technology gets cheaper is we are all greedy. my problem is that some people are allowed to be greedy, while others can't.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    then stop acting like you have class envy. How did any rich person hurt you or your family? You made a flat out lie, if you have capital gains you pay the same tax rate as Romney but no, you buy the liberal bull****. That makes you look foolish. You don't want fairness for if you did you would expect the 47% of income earning households to pay something in FIT, the 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans to be re-employed full time, and you wouldn't promote punishing producers because you don't think they pay enough when so many aren't paying anything
    all income should be taxed at the same rate, period. that's my argument, and more than a few people agree with me. it's people like YOU who try to confuse the issue by claiming captial gains were already taxed once. talk about bull****...........i DO NOT CARE if low income people get a break, i care if high income people get a break, and i am not the one complaining about my rate. i happily pay my taxes, and would be even happier if romney paid the smae rate as i do. i haven't ever lied, ever, and i challenge you to provide proof that i did.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no, my effective income tax rate is high than romney's.
    my effective property tax rate is also higher.

    so is my effective consumption tax.

    when you buy in volume, individual units are generally cheaper too. so frigging what? stop being jealous

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