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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    At least Republicans realize we need to increase domestic oil production. At least Republicans realize we need to deport illegal immigrants. At least Republicans pay taxes to keep this country going.
    Domestic production of oil doesn't help the domestic front. It is a global commodity and is sold on the global market and what we produce wouldn't make a dent in the global prices.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Technically you WAY off. The first capital gain tax was 7%, over half of what it is today. There were also graduations for exempting various percentages based on how long an investment was held. But of course you knew that I'm sure.


    And as you have openly admitted, there is no reason for the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich, and the middle class has gotten your message:

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, can you answer this question that other conservatives are unable to answer???

    Why should the middle class vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich if there is no benefit to them???
    Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class. Romney paid over 3 million dollars in taxes AFTER his Bush tax cut and someone making 40,000 or less didn't pay any FIT, which one got the bigger tax cut? Why do you envy what someone else has and want to punish them by making them pay more in taxes? Your class envy says it all.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And the tax should be higher. The lower rate has not helped the economy has it? Investors are sitting on cash. Sorry, your theory isn't working.
    We are sitting on our cash because of fear. The class warfare being waged on us has compelled us to retract from the economy and watch you guys piss, moan and whine. Just keep it up as we can do this for a LONG time. Go camp in a park and see what that will do.


    The person losing their job, loses the ability to generate revenue. The person that lost the investment loses their ability to generate revenue. Both should then find a job.
    Again, how/where did the investor lose his job?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    THINK AGAIN! An investment CAN be a source of income if successful. It can also be lost ENTIRELY in the case of business failure.
    And how is that different from income that is lost from losing a job?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    We are sitting on our cash because of fear. The class warfare being waged on us has compelled us to retract from the economy and watch you guys piss, moan and whine. Just keep it up as we can do this for a LONG time. Go camp in a park and see what that will do.
    Like I said, your theory doesn't work. I hope the gains tax increases.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Again, how/where did the investor lose his job?
    Investing IS a job. If he loses the ability to invest, he has lost his job.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class. Romney paid over 3 million dollars in taxes AFTER his Bush tax cut and someone making 40,000 or less didn't pay any FIT, which one got the bigger tax cut? Why do you envy what someone else has and want to punish them by making them pay more in taxes? Your class envy says it all.
    Romney wouldhave paid over $7 million at the proper 35% rate.

    He got the biggest tax cut.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And as you have openly admitted, there is no reason for the middle class to vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich, and the middle class has gotten your message:
    When you posted this previously I asked you why you want to try to mislead but you didn't respond. Why was that?

    Again the poll question was "Can/Should the Budget Deficit Be Reduced with Spending Cuts Alone or Should There Be Some Increase in Taxes?" not merely 'tax cuts for the rich'.

    Try again.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And how is that different from income that is lost from losing a job?
    Because the revenue I receive from MY efforts at MY job (before retirement). The revenue from MY investment is revenue I receive when YOU do YOUR job (if you worked of course). And if you would work HARDER I MIGHT realize an even GREATER revenue from MY investment in YOU!

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because the majority in this country believe in individual wealth creation and most are unlike you, striving to joing that upper class.
    I love how you said "joing." Two reasons:
    1. Misspelled
    2. You just admitted that people raised in the upper class have it much easier than the rest of us.
    Of course, those two things are so blatantly true, so why do I even bother mentioning it?
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