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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Contradiction? No Irony? yes!
    Technically you WAY off. The first capital gain tax was 7%, over half of what it is today. There were also graduations for exempting various percentages based on how long an investment was held. But of course you knew that I'm sure.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    THINK ABOUT IT! An investment IS wealth whether it gains or loses value.
    They aren't forced to invest, that is the risk. If they lose it, then they have to find a job. Just like anyone else that loses the ability to generate revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    THINK ABOUT IT! An investment IS wealth whether it gains or loses value.
    An investment is a source of income, just as a job is a source of income.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Libraries, schools and other programs paid for by the STATE are not typical funded with FEDERAL taxes on capital gains.
    You pointed out an error. Good for you. You want a trophy?
    Correction goes here.
    See for yourself. It really doesn't change too much.
    Oh wait, I guess that means you lose now. Sorry, no trophy for you.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    They aren't forced to invest, that is the risk.
    That's correct and the reduced tax rate is the inducement for them to invest it (put it at risk). And businesses benefit from this investment by the increase working capital. This is what help the economy as a whole, including those employees working for them.

    If they lose it, then they have to find a job. Just like anyone else that loses the ability to generate revenue.
    Why do you continue on this? How/Where did the investor lose his job? He merely lost his investment thus reducing his personal wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Miners knew the risk before taking the job, there is no guarantee that when you invest money you are going to get the desired outcome. Miners are paid for services rendered regardless if they produce a dime. For someone who claims to have been in the private sector you sure don't know a thing about investment and a job.
    BS. You are talking about risk. Miners take the risk. Cops take the risk. Firefighters take the risk. With their damn lives and health and future. Now tell me how money invested in a stock is more important than that.

    And to quote my friend Conservative - investors knew the risk before they invested.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    An investment is a source of income, just as a job is a source of income.
    THINK AGAIN! An investment CAN be a source of income if successful. It can also be lost ENTIRELY in the case of business failure.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Just because someone makes a rebuttal doesn't mean they are right.

    If 51% of people polled believed that the media supported Obama vs 9% McCain that makes a pretty strong statement for liberal bias.
    People, people, people. WE ARE SOOOO GULLIBLE.

    We don't have LIBERAL MEDIA, CONSERVATIVE MEDIA - WE HAVE TABLOID MEDIA....period.

    Here's how it works. Media owners package bull**** that they believe that you buy. When you stop buying, they stop selling it. Quit being brainwashed about liberal or any other kind of media other than Tabloid Medial.

    The only time the Tabloid Media manipulates political and government issues is to protect their own interests...NOT YOURS. Get over yourselves...gezzzzzzzz.



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    General Electric: 2009 revenues: $157 billion

    General Electric media-related holdings include a minority share in television networks NBC and Telemundo, Universal Pictures, Focus Features, 26 television stations in the United States and cable networks MSNBC, Bravo and the Sci Fi Channel. GE also owns 80 percent of NBC Universal. On January 18, 2011 the Federal Communications Commission approved Comcast’s take-over of a majority share of NBC-Universal from General Electric. However, General Electric still has a 49% ownership stake in NBC-Universal.

    Walt Disney Company: 2009 revenues: $36.1 billion

    The Walt Disney Company owns the ABC Television Network, cable networks including ESPN, the Disney Channel, SOAPnet, A&E and Lifetime, 277 radio stations, music and book publishing companies, production companies Touchstone, Miramax and Walt Disney Pictures, Pixar Animation Studios, the cellular service Disney Mobile, and theme parks around the world.

    News Corp: 2009 revenues: $30.4 billion

    News Corporation’s media holdings include: the Fox Broadcasting Company; television and cable networks such as Fox, Fox Business Channel, National Geographic and FX; print publications including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post andTVGuide; the magazines Barron’s and SmartMoney; book publisher HarperCollins; film production companies 20th Century Fox, Fox Searchlight Pictures and Blue Sky Studios; numerous websites including MarketWatch.com; and non-media holdings including the National Rugby League.

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    CBS Corporation: 2009 revenues: $13 billion

    CBS Corporation owns the CBS Television Network, CBS Television Distribution Group, the CW (a joint venture with Time Warner), Showtime, book publisher Simon & Schuster, 30 television stations, and CBS Radio, Inc, which has 130 stations. CBS is now the leading supplier of video to Google’s new Video Marketplace.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    That's correct and the reduced tax rate is the inducement for them to invest it (put it at risk). And businesses benefit from this investment by the increase working capital. This is what help the economy as a whole, including those employees working for them.
    And the tax should be higher. The lower rate has not helped the economy has it? Investors are sitting on cash. Sorry, your theory isn't working.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post

    Why do you continue on this? How/Where did the investor lose his job? He merely lost his investment thus reducing his personal wealth.
    The person losing their job, loses the ability to generate revenue. The person that lost the investment loses their ability to generate revenue. Both should then find a job.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragon View Post
    You pointed out an error. Good for you. You want a trophy?
    Correction goes here.
    See for yourself. It really doesn't change too much.
    Oh wait, I guess that means you lose now. Sorry, no trophy for you.
    Cute! Thank your for that. HOW COMPELLING!

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