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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    OH, pardon me.



    Yes.

    Then you are also aware the Capital Gains tax rate is at a historic low. Only in the 1920's prior to the Great Depression were they ever this low!
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    It's unseemly for a leader to blame the followers. Reagan said the buck stops here. Obama whines, "THEY won't let me do my good stuff!" That's not a leader. That's a petulant child not having his way!
    We aren't ruled by a single person, you know. Yes, Obama is a leader, but so is congress, and the supreme court. Actually, Congress has slightly more power than the president. It's not the leader blaming the followers. it's the leader blaming other leaders.
    When you talk about the Republican candidates, you have to say "Mitt or Newt," else you'll have to say "Neuter Mitt."

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    But the ability to generate revenue on the ORIGINAL INVESTEMENT IS LOST
    Much like the ability to generate revenue on the same job is lost if someone loses their job. Yet, you just tell those people to get another job. The same thing with investors. If they lose their revenue, get another job.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did you even read the article you posted?
    Yes, can you answer this question that other conservatives are unable to answer???

    Why should the middle class vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich if there is no benefit to them???
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, my premise is correct:
    Maybe you missed this part:

    Put another way: rich families were the undisputed winners from President Bush’s tax cuts, but people in the bottom half of the earnings scale were not paying much in taxes anyway.

    And I REALLY don't want to go down that marginal, effective, all-inclusive effective road again. If that is YOUR desire I retract to the previous position that you have avoided in the 'Romney...15% thread'.


    Why should the middle class vote to continue the tax cuts for the rich if there is no benefit???
    Because there is no benefit to them either way thus doing so would be perceived as 'class warfare'.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Much like the ability to generate revenue on the same job is lost if someone loses their job. Yet, you just tell those people to get another job. The same thing with investors. If they lose their revenue, get another job.
    You don't seem to get it. They didn't lose their job but rather their investment (wealth).

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Because there is no benefit to them either way thus doing so would be perceived as 'class warfare'.
    Hmm...
    It'll help fund libraries, schools, and other programs paid for by the state.
    You lose.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why should someone who loses an investment be treated any different?
    Do you mean like GM and Chrysler?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Then you are also aware the Capital Gains tax rate is at a historic low. Only in the 1920's prior to the Great Depression were they ever this low!
    Do you realize the contradiction in your post?

    Thanks for that...

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragon View Post
    Hmm...
    It'll help pay off the national debt.
    You lose.
    Please, provide some math for this position.

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