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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why is it important to say if it is or is not in the Constitution? That would be irrelevant. The issue of fairness certainly is right and proper in a discussion of public tax policy.

    You state that the government must treat wages differently than capital gains. I see no proof of your statement of belief that there would be less investment and less revenue. Can you provide that please?

    How can one show evidence otherwise from somthing you have not supplied evidence for yourself?

    Why should anyone here be for a consupmption tax in the first place?
    I did post commentary and evidence earlier. You did not read it. It is clearly explained in the video that I posted as well. Refute Charlie Gibson.

    I also just put up a post full of examples.

    It is time for liberals to stop with all the shallow crap and start to debate the merits of investment, of taxation on investment, of historical precedent on taxation, and of solutions to other than your constant whine about "fairness". Otherwise, you are like crybabies whining for more teat.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The State of the Union speech was fruitless.

    Our fellow friends, neighbors, family members will let our nation decay into a state of chaos before they'll admit that they've been had by these Yahoos in Washington. Yep, sucked, scammed, conned into believing there is more than one America.

    Which America do you live in? The Conservative America? The Liberal America? The Centralist America? Have you started hating each other enough yet?

    Meanwhile...while you've been duped into hating each other...the assholes in Washington and their cronies are stealing all three Americas right out from under your noses.
    A lot of folks are pitting us against one another. Ever watch Fox political entertainers?

    That said, we can and should look at polices that favor one over another, like favoring business over working people. And this does not have to be done in any hateful way. We do have a shrinking middle class. We do have problems that may require less favors to business. We should seek to remove money form politics.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Because from a NASDAQ Stock Market survey suggests that the notion that all investors are affluent gentlemen coupon-clippers is no longer true. The survey found that:

    stock ownership doubled over the past seven years to 43 percent of the adult population;
    47 percent of all investors are women;
    55 percent are under the age of 50; and
    50 percent are not college graduates.

    The survey results suggest that a capital gains tax reduction would directly benefit many Americans across the income spectrum. More importantly, a tax cut would benefit all Americans by promoting economic growth, thus boosting workers wages and living standards.
    None of that says anything about why capital gains need to be treated differently. Why are you giving us survey results that fail to answer the question you were asked?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    I made the correction why do you ignore the value of investment capital and where that money comes from
    Nobody is ignoring that.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I understand.

    The Democrat Party today is vastly different from that of Truman and JFK.
    And the Republican party is not the party of Reagan. Both parties need to go.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Because from a NASDAQ Stock Market survey suggests that the notion that all investors are affluent gentlemen coupon-clippers is no longer true. The survey found that:

    stock ownership doubled over the past seven years to 43 percent of the adult population;
    47 percent of all investors are women;
    55 percent are under the age of 50; and
    50 percent are not college graduates.

    The survey results suggest that a capital gains tax reduction would directly benefit many Americans across the income spectrum. More importantly, a tax cut would benefit all Americans by promoting economic growth, thus boosting workers’ wages and living standards.
    Yes, I have heard the case for trickle down economics before. Present the evidence of how the Bush tax cuts for the rich over the last ten years have benefited the middle class?
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    "Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal."

    Thats from the UCLA study in 2005. Those stations have only gotten more obviously biased since then.

    Remember the 2008 election where the Rasmussen poll showed 51% felt the media want Obama to win versus 9% felt they wanted McCain to win?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you fail to recognize is that we have a growing economy based upon a growing investment and if you stop investing you stop growth. you think raising taxes provides the incentive to invest? I will always support individual risk taking and individual wealth creation, why won't you? What is it about liberalism that has people living in a vacuum.
    it's idiotic to believe that people will stop buying stocks simply becasue they pay a little more tax. when the tax rates for investments were higher, people still invested.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    "Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal."

    Thats from the UCLA study in 2005. Those stations have only gotten more obviously biased since then.

    Remember the 2008 election where the Rasmussen poll showed 51% felt the media want Obama to win versus 9% felt they wanted McCain to win?
    There's a lot of issues with how they scored them. You should search rebuttals to that study. . . . . Just saying.

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