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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Sounded like a campaign speech to me. This guy, like all politicians, infuriates me with his manipulation of policy to receive a vote. Who wants to take the bet that he approves the Keystone Pipeline closer to November? He played to his base, he played to independents, and said just enough things that we know aren't true to sound good to moderate "conservatives".
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Sounded like a campaign speech to me. This guy, like all politicians, infuriates me with his manipulation of policy to receive a vote. Who wants to take the bet that he approves the Keystone Pipeline closer to November? He played to his base, he played to independents, and said just enough things that we know aren't true to sound good to moderate "conservatives".
    What's a "moderate conservative"? Aren't those two mutually exclusive?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah I watched it, and I think it's one of Obama's worst speeches ever. Much of the language didn't sound presidential, the delivery was off, and wasn't he usual quality.
    Oh wow, a hyper partisan conservative thinks Obama's speech was bad. Color me suprised.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has crunched the numbers and found that Warren Buffett and his secretary are the exception to the rule. For the most part, the wealthy pay a significantly higher percentage of their income in taxes than middle-income workers.

    The key numbers: this year those earning over $1 million will pay, on average, 29.1 percent on federal taxes. Those earning between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15 percent.

    That’s not to say that there aren’t wealthy people who are even better than Buffett at avoiding taxes. In 2009, 1,470 people with incomes over $1 million a year paid absolutely no taxes. But that represents less than 1 percent of those earning over $1 million a year. Raising their taxes may be the fair thing to do, but it will not bring in much revenue.

    There were 236,883 taxpayers who earned more than $1 million in 2009. That’s less than two-tenths of one percent of all filers.

    The Top 400 tax filers – the very richest Americans – do pay a lower rate of just 18.11 percent of their total income. Why? Many of them are hedge fund managers and people like Buffet — their income is pegged how much their investment fund grows. For some reason, this income is counted as so-called “carried interest” (even though it is not interest at all; it’s more like a performance bonus) and is taxed at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate."
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ies-and-taxes/



    Good thing you didn't take that bet Maggie!
    Shut up Sheik. AGI numbers for 2010.jpg
    Top 1% get 16% of the income and pay 38% of the taxes.
    Top 5% get 35% of the income and pay 59% of the taxes.
    Top 10% get 46% of the income and pay 70% of the taxes.

    We cant even get enough money if the top 1% paid ALL of their income. We are spending too much money and this chucklehead wants us to just spend more and more. Hes the most dangerous kind of crazy, the kind with a lot of power and no idea of the consequences down the road.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Just a little information that I'm sure will tweak the haters:

    Yahoo! audience reacts: 63% say Obama made the case for a second term | The Ticket - Yahoo! News


    63% believe that Obama made the case for a second-term (and this doesn't even factor in the two sorry candidates that are vying for the GOP nod)
    WOOOOOOOW

    A Yahoo Online Poll.

    Well, that'll have to compete with Ron Paul who will obviously be the Republic Nominee and wipe the floor with Obama...Online polls say so.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Shut up Sheik.
    WTF?? I suggest you look at the name of the author of the post you were responding to. Here's a free clue for ya -- it wasn't me.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hes provided more funding for clean energy than any president in history during his first year!
    Yeah...how's that turned out so far, by the way?
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Hes provided more funding for clean energy than any president in history during his first year!
    He's promised taxpayer money. He himself has provided nothing. He's worried about clean energy that will skyrocket energy costs for all of us, when we have alot of folks who can't even afford their light bill as it is.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center has crunched the numbers and found that Warren Buffett and his secretary are the exception to the rule. For the most part, the wealthy pay a significantly higher percentage of their income in taxes than middle-income workers.

    The key numbers: this year those earning over $1 million will pay, on average, 29.1 percent on federal taxes. Those earning between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15 percent.

    That’s not to say that there aren’t wealthy people who are even better than Buffett at avoiding taxes. In 2009, 1,470 people with incomes over $1 million a year paid absolutely no taxes. But that represents less than 1 percent of those earning over $1 million a year. Raising their taxes may be the fair thing to do, but it will not bring in much revenue.

    There were 236,883 taxpayers who earned more than $1 million in 2009. That’s less than two-tenths of one percent of all filers.

    The Top 400 tax filers – the very richest Americans – do pay a lower rate of just 18.11 percent of their total income. Why? Many of them are hedge fund managers and people like Buffet — their income is pegged how much their investment fund grows. For some reason, this income is counted as so-called “carried interest” (even though it is not interest at all; it’s more like a performance bonus) and is taxed at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate."
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ies-and-taxes/

    Good thing you didn't take that bet Maggie!
    You just cannot stand being wrong, can you? In fact, your own post proves you wrong on your other thread. Thanks for putting it out there:

    This year those earning over $1 million will pay, on average, 29.1 percent on federal taxes. Those earning between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15 percent.
    Obama said:

    Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.
    That is completely false. There is not an ounce of truth in it. Justabubba said he saw a weasel in my post, and it wasn't you. I posted that you weren't a weasel. You weaseled on your bet. And you did. Live with it. The weasel was Obama. He made that statement intentionally and, interestingly, in the same sentence with "class warfare."

    In the political sphere, this type of language is used to "spin" or alter the public's perception of an issue. In 1916, Theodore Roosevelt argued that "one of our defects as a nation is a tendency to use ...'weasel words'; when one 'weasel word' is used ... after another there is nothing left".
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i saw a weasel present within that post

    it was NOT catawba
    Take off your blinders. Maggie was consistent through the entire discussion. Cat moved the goal posts twice.
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