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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Right, when confused by data and facts, always resort to attacking Fox News.
    Data and facts? Like 243,000 jobs created in January? Like another drop in the unemployment rate?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Data and facts? Like 243,000 jobs created in January? Like another drop in the unemployment rate?
    Great news, now exactly what did Obama do to generate those numbers? With the economy improving like this why raise taxes, why implement more nanny state policies.

    I am sure the over 1 million discouraged workers last month appreciate those numbers as well especially since the 4.6 trillion added to the debt apparently didn't help them

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Data and facts? Like 243,000 jobs created in January? Like another drop in the unemployment rate?
    Another bad day for Conservatives -- but a good one for America. I actuallly heard a Conservative say yesterday that the expectation of a 9+% unemployment rate by the election would be "good news." There really are Conservatives out there who are hoping and praying for disaster to strike America just to increase their chances at beating Obama in November.

    Good news for America is bad news for Conservatives.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Another bad day for Conservatives -- but a good one for America. I actuallly heard a Conservative say yesterday that the expectation of a 9+% unemployment rate by the election would be "good news." There really are Conservatives out there who are hoping and praying for disaster to strike America just to increase their chances at beating Obama in November.

    Good news for America is bad news for Conservatives.
    Good news for America would be employment back to pre recession days, discouraged workers back to pre recession days, a debt back to pre recession days, and a President who believed in America and didn't promote class envy.

    All we got today is more information that half the country will support because they have no clue what is going on. These are the "Jersey Shore" voters.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great news, now exactly what did Obama do to generate those numbers? With the economy improving like this why raise taxes, why implement more nanny state policies.

    I am sure the over 1 million discouraged workers last month appreciate those numbers as well especially since the 4.6 trillion added to the debt apparently didn't help them
    Are you trying to say that Obama's policies are responsible for economic conditions when there is bad news, but not when there's good news? Of course you are.

    Once again you shatter the hypocrisy meter. You've spent the last three years blaming Obama for BLS data, and now that it's turned around your immediate reaction is to suggest that Obama's policies don't have any effect on the economy. Unbe****inglievable.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Are you trying to say that Obama's policies are responsible for economic conditions when there is bad news, but not when there's good news? Of course you are.

    Once again you shatter the hypocrisy meter. You've spent the last three years blaming Obama for BLS data, and now that it's turned around your immediate reaction is to suggest that Obama's policies don't have any effect on the economy. Unbe****inglievable.
    I haven't been in this forum for three years but I have been using BLS data for a lot longer than that. Discouraged workers are still over a million a month and those people aren't counted as unemployed. The unemployment number is still higher than when he took office, the employment number is still less than when he took office, the labor force is still less than when he took office. All the numbers are still much worse than the pre recession numbers. Compared to previous recessions this is the worst recovery in history.

    Obama claimed his policies have brought us back from the brink. let me know what policies Obama has generated in the last year that has generated these results today?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I haven't been in this forum for three years but I have been using BLS data for a lot longer than that. Discouraged workers are still over a million a month and those people aren't counted as unemployed. The unemployment number is still higher than when he took office, the employment number is still less than when he took office, the labor force is still less than when he took office. All the numbers are still much worse than the pre recession numbers. Compared to previous recessions this is the worst recovery in history.

    Obama claimed his policies have brought us back from the brink. let me know what policies Obama has generated in the last year that has generated these results today?
    Discouraged workers are included in U-6 unemployment which, at 15.1% is now EXACTLY where it was in February of '09 -- Obama's first full month in office.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Discouraged workers are included in U-6 unemployment which, at 15.1% is now EXACTLY where it was in February of '09 -- Obama's first full month in office.
    The number I want but that we will probably never be able to get is where people go after leaving U6: into a job, out of the labor force, into retirement, etc.

    Adam it should be noted that the labor force has dropped by some 2 million while population growth added a similar amount of people that should have entered the workforce, thats a sobering set of numbers.

    Im glad that January is showing job growth, but we need a lot more than that. Im of the wait and see attitude right now.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Discouraged workers are included in U-6 unemployment which, at 15.1% is now EXACTLY where it was in February of '09 -- Obama's first full month in office.
    And that is a good thing in your world? 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans is a good thing in the liberal world. I think you have yourself convinced to re-elect Obama. I am glad I live in TX

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    And that is a good thing in your world? 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans is a good thing in the liberal world. I think you have yourself convinced to re-elect Obama. I am glad I live in TX
    It's a good that that it's improving. It's a good thing in relation to where we've been. Obviously we still have a long ways to go.

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