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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    I don't think promoting class warfare and showing zero leadership skills is a winning argument for leadership. Apparently it does appeal to those with the entitlement mentality

    Okay what is class warfare and how do you put it into a empirical quantifiable hypothesis?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    I am not surprised that you are an Obama supporter joining all the other Govt, minority, and union employees that expect the taxpayer to fund everything they want.
    Your hyperbole falls on deaf ears.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    If you knew anything, you'd know that unemployment is a lagging indicator of the economy. Still, almost 4 million jobs were lost until Bush's Great Recession ended. No one in their right mind blames Obama for jobs lost because of Bush's Great Recession. And over the last 23 consecutive months of private sector growth, we've gained over 3 million jobs. By election day, that number will be well over 4 million and 33 consecutive months if the trend continues.
    Right, it is really lagging and at a cost of 4.6 trillion through 2011 and another 1.1 trillion in 2012 that isn't the kind of results that justify that expenditure but that doesn't matter to the entitlement mentality individuals like you appear to be

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Results never matter to an Obama supporter as long as you get your taxpayer funded benefits.
    Cries a 4-time Bush voter.

    Spare me.



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    Right, it is really lagging and at a cost of 4.6 trillion through 2011 and another 1.1 trillion in 2012 that isn't the kind of results that justify that expenditure but that doesn't matter to the entitlement mentality individuals like you appear to be

    Well you seem to vote for people that increase debt on a grander scale like Reagan who on his watch saw this nation turn from a creditor nation to a debtor nation.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Cries a 4-time Bush voter.

    Spare me.


    Obama has made Bush look great in terms of actual performance

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    If obama can get enough people to get discouraged and drop out he definitely could get unemployment below 8%
    Interesting that you are so focused on discouraged workers ...

    Jan/2001: 301,000
    Jan/2009: 734,000
    Dec/2011: 945,000

    Bush: 433,000 additional discouraged workers (+59%)
    Obama: 211,000 additional discouraged workers (+22%)

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well you seem to vote for people that increase debt on a grander scale like Reagan who on his watch saw this nation turn from a creditor nation to a debtor nation.
    Exactly, we all know that 1.7 trillion added to the debt to create 16.8 million jobs is much, much worse than adding 4.6 trillion to the debt to have a net job loss. That is liberal logic

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone that supports Obama can be lumped in with all the other malcontents, unions, govt. employees, and anyone else that lives off the taxpayers. Results never matter to an Obama supporter as long as you get your taxpayer funded benefits.

    DAMN!!! Musta not got the word that when they were down over the weekend that the name was changed from DEBATE POLITICS, TO DEBATE OPINIONS.Why didn't someone tell me?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Interesting that you are so focused on discouraged workers ...

    Jan/2001: 301,000
    Jan/2009: 734,000
    Dec/2011: 945,000

    Bush: 433,000 additional discouraged workers (+59%)
    Obama: 211,000 additional discouraged workers (+22%)
    Discouraged workers by month

    Discouraged workers
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119 977 1037 967 1096 945

    Notice how the discouraged workers increased as evidence showed the stimulus program being such a failure. You do know what a discouraged worker is, don't you?
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