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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And were McCain Palin to be in office whhat would be different?
    It would have been very different. I believe it would be worse today as they would have maintained the same Republican policies which wrecked the economy to begin with.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know. Someone posted up this link the other day 2012 Election: The Candidate Match Game - USATODAY.com -- I took the test and came out tied that my ideal candidate was either Obama or Romney. What?! Maybe the Republican stance on raising taxes is, in the end, a painful/hurtful position for them. 'Course I do support national healthcare...so maybe I'm reallly a Moderate.
    You are most likely mostly Conservative with some moderate positions. Asked whether they are Liberal or Conservative, just about anybody will say one or the other. But, when asked that question on specific issues, the answers are all over the place, depending on the issue. That is why it is not a good thing to peg someone, and put him in a box, as one or the other. But most do, and a few others do it to demonize an opponent. Here is the irony of our age: Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich calling each other Liberals, when each of them have done things in the past that could be construed as Liberal. But is either one a Conservative? Once again, depends on the issue, and past voting record, which tells the real story. When both say they are Conservative, they are both telling the truth. When each accuses the other of being a Liberal, again they are both telling the truth. Depends on the context.
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    We will never know, do you work for the Psychic hotline?
    Cries the guy who says he voted for Bush over Gore and Kerry because they would have been worse.

    You owe me a new irony meter, Con, you just broke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It would have been very different. I believe it would be worse today as they would have maintained the same Republican policies which wrecked the economy to begin with.
    I am not surprised that you are an Obama supporter joining all the other Govt, minority, and union employees that expect the taxpayer to fund everything they want.

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    We will never know, do you work for the Psychic hotline?


    No I don't but it seems like you think you think it would be a lot better should a Republican in the White House. Now then what would be better about a Republican being in office other than you getting jollies and your cheerleading not going to waste? And please no more sloganeering sound bight BS.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So much for shovel ready jobs and the loss of jobs in 2010 well after the recession ended. What you seem to forget conveniently is that the Discouraged workers aren't counted as unemployed and are more than double the Bush average. adding the unemployed and discouraged workers together make the Obama results a disaster.

    If obama can get enough people to get discouraged and drop out he definitely could get unemployment below 8%
    Yet Obama is polling within one percentage point of what he won the election in 08 against maverick.maverick was a better choice then the current clown show. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No I don't but it seems like you think you think it would be a lot better should a Republican in the White House. Now then what would be better about a Republican being in office other than you getting jollies and your cheerleading not going to waste? And please no more sloganeering sound bight BS.
    I don't think promoting class warfare and showing zero leadership skills is a winning argument for leadership. Apparently it does appeal to those with the entitlement mentality

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Voters have a clear choice in November:

    "We have a very clear choice in which direction in which our country can go. The choice is ours. We can bemoan the effect of special interests, of the Citizens Untited decision, but ultimately we are free to vote for whomever we choose and as a populace are responsible for the government we have.

    We can go down the road where we help the working poor maintain a dignified life and give them the tools – health care, food stamps, student loans – to better their lives. We can choose to give a **** about those less fortunate than us and not demonize them for societies ills. We can to choose to have clean air and water. We can choose to regulate businesses so they don’t screw us, poison us, or injure us. We can have good public schools and national parks. We can do all this without denying the wealthy the fruits of their ‘labor’ though the fruits will admittedly be somewhat smaller. The only thing they will be denied is unfettered power, and THIS is what they are fighting tooth and nail against right now.

    Or

    We can go down the path the likes of the tea party and arch conservatives are advocating, where we gut the government, the social safety nets, environmental protection, all those things mentioned above. We can go down a path of economic and social darwinism. At it’s heart the conservative adgenda for the country will turn our country into a modern day feudal system with “job creators” in place of noble lords and “workers” in place of serfs, where the majority of us are left fighting for the scraps from the 1%’s table, left to their tender mercies.

    Personally, I would prefer the former, and have been wishing for so long that Americans would wake the **** up en masse and see what is being done to them. I wish that folks like the Tea Partiers would simply look at the numbers and realize that they are pawns of the Koch brothers and their ilk, being led by the nose to do their bidding.

    This election will be that choice and set the die for the next decade on. I hope we make the right choice, and believe that OWS had made that possibility much more likely. Mittens being battered about Bain and his tax returns would have never happens if it had not been for OWS bringing these issues into the public consciousness. If Obama wins he will owe a debt of thanks to OWS."
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Yet Obama is polling within one percentage point of what he won the electron in 08 against maverick.maverick was a better choice then the current clown show. Go figure.
    Anyone that supports Obama can be lumped in with all the other malcontents, unions, govt. employees, and anyone else that lives off the taxpayers. Results never matter to an Obama supporter as long as you get your taxpayer funded benefits.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So much for shovel ready jobs and the loss of jobs in 2010 well after the recession ended.
    If you knew anything, you'd know that unemployment is a lagging indicator of the economy. Still, almost 4 million jobs were lost until Bush's Great Recession ended. No one in their right mind blames Obama for jobs lost because of Bush's Great Recession. And over the last 23 consecutive months of private sector growth, we've gained over 3 million jobs. By election day, that number will be well over 4 million and 33 consecutive months if the trend continues.

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