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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Another dishonest post from TD. I have said that I'm willing to have my tax rates increased

    The only consistency is TD's position is that he doesn't want HIS taxes raised.

    He's willing to have taxes increased on people who make less them him. He's willing to have taxes increased on people who make more than him.
    the main solution is to get rid of all the idiotic excessive government spending and that would mean no one paying more tax

    the worst solution-the one you and other lefties want is to jack up taxes on the rich. that will only increase the deficit because the rest of the public will assume that they don't have to pay anything more and they will demand more spending

    THE ONLY WAY the tax system can reduce the deficit is to make government spending PAINFUL to a majority of the voters and that is not achieved by only taxing those who already pay far too much

    and yes, if someone is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes they are paying far more than they use and if someone is pay ZERO income taxes they are paying less than they should

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The money didn't move. It didn't perform a job, it was just redistributed. If two people are standing on the corner and one hands the other 20,000 dollars, we are ok with taxing that? I know we do tax that, but the money hasn't done anything but move between names. It didn't buy anything or generate anything. It was just moved.
    excellent point-I noted that there is no transfer for value

    sangha either thinks the government deserves 60% of the profit or more or just wants to annoy those with investment income

    there is not a sound or fair argument why the government should take 35% and then 35%-45% from the same pile of money

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The money didn't move. It didn't perform a job, it was just redistributed. If two people are standing on the corner and one hands the other 20,000 dollars, we are ok with taxing that? I know we do tax that, but the money hasn't done anything but move between names. It didn't buy anything or generate anything. It was just moved.

    What if it was 20 dollars?
    Yes, the money did move. It moved from the possession of Mikes' Lemonade Stand into the pockets of Mike.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why am I not surprised you'd be insulting?
    Because you are a sock puppet hiding behind some new account?

    Otherwise I have no idea. Who are you really?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why am I not surprised you'd be insulting?

    Double taxation does not exist in America. Sorry, it doesn't. The concept is based on a foolish idea that a corporation and it's owners are one. They are not. The other foolish belief is money somehow has a memory. It doesn't. All bets are off when it changes hands. If someone gives you a million dollars, a mill they paid taxes on, the money isn't doubled taxed and neither are you. That entire frame of thinking is ridiculous. Money isn't an entity with rights and legal status beyond the entities controlling it. Money isn't taxed outside of the entity.

    I see how Conservative fall into the worship of money...
    and you seem to have a driving desire to have the government confiscate as much wealth as possible

    no one can justify the government diminishing say a million dollars by 610,000 dollars before that money gets to the owners

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the main solution is to get rid of all the idiotic excessive government spending and that would mean no one paying more tax

    the worst solution-the one you and other lefties want is to jack up taxes on the rich. that will only increase the deficit because the rest of the public will assume that they don't have to pay anything more and they will demand more spending

    THE ONLY WAY the tax system can reduce the deficit is to make government spending PAINFUL to a majority of the voters and that is not achieved by only taxing those who already pay far too much

    and yes, if someone is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes they are paying far more than they use and if someone is pay ZERO income taxes they are paying less than they should
    Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

    The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    excellent point-I noted that there is no transfer for value

    sangha either thinks the government deserves 60% of the profit or more or just wants to annoy those with investment income

    there is not a sound or fair argument why the government should take 35% and then 35%-45% from the same pile of money
    Your posts haven't been honest about your own motivations so I'm not surprised that your post is dishonest about mine
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

    The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position
    Individual greed is the reason things get cheaper and/or last longer.

    Pretty much everyone has this quality, yet your ideology demonizes something so commonplace.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

    The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position
    NOtice how selfish sangha is-he thinks the government deserves 60% of money earned by a corporation before the owners of the corporation get it.

    tell me Sangha, how much is too much

    and selfish is demanding those who pay too much pay even more

    and I don't believe for a second you are in the top one percent. and I don't believe for a second those who are in that group that say they aren't taxed enough really believe that. They spew that crap because they benefit when dems are in power and that is their goal.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Individual greed is the reason things get cheaper and/or last longer.

    Pretty much everyone has this quality, yet your ideology demonizes something so commonplace.
    At least you agree that TD's position is selfish and has nothing to do with right or wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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