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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    Your post was dishonest. You claimed that everything a business does was meant to increase or maintain its' profits. I proved that you are wrong. Then you changed your claim to "all businesses want to make a profit". I proved that was also wrong.
    I fail to see any actual distinction here.

    Meant to, and want to has the same meaning in this context.

    No, in the case I described, the subsidiary is not taking any action to increase its' profits. They are *deliberately* incurring losses.

    In the made up hypothetical you described, you said it was to increase the profits of a different company. So the actions were still done to increase profit somewhere, so you can’t even make up a scenario out of thin air that defends your position.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I don't think you understand how corporations work in legal terms. Shareholders are completely separate from the corporation.

    That's the cost of having the benefits and personal legal protection corporations provide.
    I don't think you have any clue either about what I know about corporations or the point I am making

    the point I am making is that it is WRONG for the government to take so much money with two cuts at the same piece of pie

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most people do not buy stock in order to receive dividends.
    Oh do pretend to start speaking for the investor class

    geez

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Tell that to Warren Buffet

    BTW, I support higher tax rates on the rich, and I happen to be rich. Your claim is nothing but self-serving fiction
    Well after I get done laughing at that claim tell us why?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    More dishonest claptrap from the right

    Income and capital gains are not the same things

    And payroll taxes were the subject of a recent battle in congress. Once again, you've been proven to be posting fiction
    more babbling idiocy.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you pay a tax atty to pay your taxes sooner than you need to, you don't know about Form 2210, and you think other people are unlearned about taxation? :
    more babbling idiocy. Your posts really look stupid when you start pretending you can fathom what I know

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And another dishonest post from TD

    Dividends are only taxed when received. That's just one time, not two
    more evasive nonsense. the same pool of money is twice taxed

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I fail to see any actual distinction here.
    Your failure to understand the difference does not mean that there is no difference

    Meant to, and want to has the same meaning in this context.
    And again, some corps neither mean to, nor want to, make a profit





    In the made up hypothetical you described, you said it was to increase the profits of a different company. So the actions were still done to increase profit somewhere, so you can’t even make up a scenario out of thin air that defends your position.
    It wasn't just a hypothetical. I cited a well-known example (again, Enron)

    And now you're changing your claim for a 2nd time. Now, it's not "all businesses want to increase their own profit"; it's "businesses want to increase someones profits"
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't think you have any clue either about what I know about corporations or the point I am making

    the point I am making is that it is WRONG for the government to take so much money with two cuts at the same piece of pie
    We all have plenty of clues about your position, and it has nothing to do with right and wrong (or honesty)
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Well after I get done laughing at that claim tell us why?
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    more babbling idiocy.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more babbling idiocy. Your posts really look stupid when you start pretending you can fathom what I know
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more evasive nonsense. the same pool of money is twice taxed
    TS has been been so pwned that he has been reduced to childish spew
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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