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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Please stop the compassion BS. Spending is what drives our economy. Reducing public spending without an equal gain in private spending will weaken the economy. It is simple math.
    You want to weaken the economy so you don't have to pay as much taxes. You might be sorry unless you are among the few that acutally benefit from recession.
    You need to stop when you are way behind. You have no idea what drives the economy but instead just spout your liberal bs. First you claim dividends are pre tax and now you claim that public spending drives the economy, public spending is offset by public debt, something you don't understand.

    You believe people should invest their money into a company out of the goodness of their heart never expecting a return on that investment? That is total ignorance but you do make other liberals proud

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You need to stop when you are way behind. You have no idea what drives the economy but instead just spout your liberal bs. First you claim dividends are pre tax and now you claim that public spending drives the economy, public spending is offset by public debt, something you don't understand.

    You believe people should invest their money into a company out of the goodness of their heart never expecting a return on that investment? That is total ignorance but you do make other liberals proud
    Most people do not buy stock in order to receive dividends.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Double Taxation Definition | Investopedia

    Definition of 'Double Taxation'
    A taxation principle referring to income taxes that are paid twice on the same source of earned income.

    Double taxation occurs because corporations are considered separate legal entities from their shareholders. As such, corporations pay taxes on their annual earnings, just as individuals do. When corporations pay out dividends to shareholders, those dividend payments incur income-tax liabilities for the shareholders who receive them, even though the earnings that provided the cash to pay the dividends were already taxed at the corporate level.

    Double taxation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    'Double taxation' of Corporate dividends
    Some comentators assert that shareholders are often also subject to double taxation, as the Corporation they own is taxed on its profit as a legal entity and they are taxed again at the individual level when they receive distributions.

    The fact is, no one entity is double taxed on a single transaction.

    A simple Google search would have given you folks the answer right away, so I'm a bit shocked that folks are still complaining about something that in truth, is working as intended and is indeed fair. If you want corporations to be treats like separate entities, then there you have it. You can't have your cake and eat it too... sorry.
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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Ill tell you whats more troublesome, and thats double taxation on small businesses. The sole owner gets taxed when he makes a profit and then he gets taxed when he removes equity or capital. Id be for removing that before removing corporate taxes.

    Then there is the liability issues small business owners face unless they incorporate. Whoever mentioned LLCs earlier in the thread, thats dang near the only way that a small business owner can grow beyond a single crew doing a single job in most sectors.
    Both are totally separate forms of income, how is that double taxation?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, that was the argument. You claimed that businesses always invest money to make a profit. That isn't true. There's a lot of reasons why businesses invest money.
    You just changed your statement significantly. Business’s don’t always make money, but they always want to make money.

    on edit: And some corps (ex subsidiaries) are founded, not to make a profit, but to reduce the expenses of it's parent corp (see Enron)
    reduce expenses is a means to an end. You know what the end is? Yep… profit

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Both are totally separate forms of income, how is that double taxation?
    The profit IS the equity or capital in question. Are you kidding me with this question or what?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Double Taxation Definition | Investopedia

    Definition of 'Double Taxation'
    A taxation principle referring to income taxes that are paid twice on the same source of earned income.

    Double taxation occurs because corporations are considered separate legal entities from their shareholders. As such, corporations pay taxes on their annual earnings, just as individuals do. When corporations pay out dividends to shareholders, those dividend payments incur income-tax liabilities for the shareholders who receive them, even though the earnings that provided the cash to pay the dividends were already taxed at the corporate level.

    Double taxation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    'Double taxation' of Corporate dividends
    Some comentators assert that shareholders are often also subject to double taxation, as the Corporation they own is taxed on its profit as a legal entity and they are taxed again at the individual level when they receive distributions.

    The fact is, no one entity is double taxed on a single transaction.

    A simple Google search would have given you folks the answer right away, so I'm a bit shocked that folks are still complaining about something that in truth, is working as intended and is indeed fair. If you want corporations to be treats like separate entities, then there you have it. You can't have your cake and eat it too... sorry.
    Another liberal lacking reading comprehension.

    Nobody in this thread is challenging the separate entity thing.

    One ignorant poster claims double taxation didn’t exist.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most people do not buy stock in order to receive dividends.
    That must be why stocks there are stocks with high dividends, because people dont want dividends. Most yes, not all.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    You just changed your statement significantly. Business’s don’t always make money, but they always want to make money.



    reduce expenses is a means to an end. You know what the end is? Yep… profit
    No, you're the one who changed his statement. You originally argued that businesses always reinvested to make more money or continue making money. Now, you've changed it to "businesses always want to make money". And ironically, even that is not true, as my subsidiary example shows. Some businesses aren't designed to make a profit. They're designed to increase the profits of a different corp.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The profit IS the equity or capital in question. Are you kidding me with this question or what?
    No, profit is not capital.

    Try again
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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