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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, you were proven wrong, Clinton raised taxes in 1993 and had a higher deficit than was generated AFTER the Tax Relief Act of 1997 but as you continue to play your game you ignore that reality. How do you explain tax rates prior to 1997 being higher than after 1997 and having a higher deficit prior to 1997
    Clinton's deficits started shrinking in '93 and it was a continuous decline -- nearly linear -- from that time until 2000. The '97 tax cut was largely offset by the dotcom bubble. Of course the cut also helped FUEL the bubble, as is usually the case.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I like this a lot.
    Thanks, that seems to be the liberal philosophy today appealing to someone's heart bypassing their brain. Notice the liberal rhetoric blaming conservatives of starving kids, killing seniors, and polluting the air and to solve those problem they want more money because all that previous spending never solved the problem. Who wants to starve kids,kill seniors, and pollute the air that they breath? That way they get people to think with their heart instead of their brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Clinton's deficits started shrinking in '93 and it was a continuous decline -- nearly linear -- from that time until 2000. The '97 tax cut was largely offset by the dotcom bubble. Of course the cut also helped FUEL the bubble, as is usually the case.
    I see, when was that proclaimed Clinton surplus, before or after 1997?

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    Re: State of the Union Address

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    Liberalism is defined by the concept of spending IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION but never getting compassionate results which mean solving an actual social problem.
    Versus conservatives who like spending money on wars and spending money on corporate welfare that will supposidly give an incentive to create jobs, but doesn't. I'd rather spend money to try and help Americans, then spend money on other nations like conservatives like to do.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I like this a lot.
    Yes, you do like hyperbole.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    But see, that’s not consistent with your previous argument:



    As to your claim, I am somewhat confused. The chart shows the lowest quintile realized a 46% reduction (8 to 4.3), second a 30.7% reduction (14.3 to 9.9), third a 23.6% reduction (18.6 to 14.2) and so on. What am I missing?
    Why isn't it consistent?

    8% to 4.3% is a change of 3.7%. 42.9% to 31.5% is a change of 11.4%. I think that's what you're missing.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    capital gains taxes are income taxes

    try again

    and Payroll "taxes" have never played a prominent role in the divide and conquer schemes of congress
    More dishonest claptrap from the right

    Income and capital gains are not the same things

    And payroll taxes were the subject of a recent battle in congress. Once again, you've been proven to be posting fiction
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmm you don't pay capital gains quarterly. And if one has a loss in one year that can carry over to the next year as a write off.
    And again, TDs claims are proven to be fiction
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Liberalism is defined by the concept of spending IN THE NAME OF COMPASSION but never getting compassionate results which mean solving an actual social problem.
    Nice bumber sticker, but in fact safety net programs have cut the poverty rate in half since they were enacted. And I think present conditions would be infinitely worse if we didn't have unemployment, food stamps, and other forms of assistance.

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    Re: State of the Union Address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Versus conservatives who like spending money on wars and spending money on corporate welfare that will supposidly give an incentive to create jobs, but doesn't. I'd rather spend money to try and help Americans, then spend money on other nations like conservatives like to do.
    LOL, you really don't stand the concept of making money and keeping more of it. You truly have been brainwashed. Corporate welfare is mostly in the form of tax credits where corporations keep more of what they earn. What do they do with that extra money?

    If you would rather spend money to help Americans, I am all for it, do it, give as much as you want to the charity of your choice but please stop believing that bureaucrats in D.C. have the same feelings and beliefs nor can they do what you can do better. You don't seem to understand the concept of social responsibility and prefer to make it a Federal responsibility vs. a state and local. That way you can delegate blame to someone else for failures. It is easier ignoring blame for failure when that spending was based upon compassion and the feelings of the heart. When are liberals ever going to generate compassionate results for all that social spending that has created more dependence?

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