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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's not just the 3.5% who self-identify that way who are the problem. It's the millions of people who accept these ideologies as appropriate who are just as much the problem. They are the passive co-conspirators in this mess that keep the problem from ever being fixed or dealt with.
    Which results in what? Tolerance?

    What exactly is the problem?

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's not just the 3.5% who self-identify that way who are the problem. It's the millions of people who accept these ideologies as appropriate who are just as much the problem. They are the passive co-conspirators in this mess that keep the problem from ever being fixed or dealt with.
    The problem to be fixed is you, not everyone else. You know there comes a point when you might want to look at yourself and say "Gee, maybe it isn't everyone else. Maybe I'm the problem".

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

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    It does? Where? What exact document or phrase in our Constitution specifically calls for separation of church and state?
    It's been interpreted that way as being consitutional. The consitution doesn't specifically mention a whole lot of things that are also covered under it.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The consitution doesn't specifically mention
    Precisely.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Which results in what? Tolerance? What exactly is the problem?
    Tolerance IS the problem. I was taught that the acceptance of an improper act makes one as much at fault as committing that act yourself. We are not so slowly destroying the morals and values that were the foundation of this nation; and someday soon it is going to lead to our downfall.

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    If you don't like NASCAR do you resist going to states that host NASCAR races?
    If NASCAR is a major part of their society, YES.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The problem to be fixed is you, not everyone else. You know there comes a point when you might want to look at yourself and say "Gee, maybe it isn't everyone else. Maybe I'm the problem".
    Actually I've found over the years that it's when I AGREE with the majority that I'm wrong much more often than when I don't.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We are not so slowly destroying the morals and values that were the foundation of this nation; and someday soon it is going to lead to our downfall.
    The values of the founding fathers were to have child labor, slavery, blacks not being able to vote, women not being able to vote and treated like property, etc. The morals of the time were to treat blacks and women as property. Are you saying you are for all those things?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Actually I've found over the years that it's when I AGREE with the majority that I'm wrong much more often than when I don't.
    That's part of the whole paranoia thing I was talking about earlier.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    I'd love to hear what Navy Pride has to say about this......
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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Tolerance IS the problem. I was taught that the acceptance of an improper act makes one as much at fault as committing that act yourself. We are not so slowly destroying the morals and values that were the foundation of this nation; and someday soon it is going to lead to our downfall.
    I view your inability to tolerate the freedoms that other people deserve to be the "improper act".

    Why do you let what other people do have so much power over you?

    What are your thoughts on mixed-race marriages? Moral or immoral?

    What about marriages between people of different religions? Say a Catholic and a Jew? Moral or immoral?

    Isn't sex out of wedlock a bigger moral issue than sex within wedlock?
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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Tolerance IS the problem. I was taught that the acceptance of an improper act makes one as much at fault as committing that act yourself. We are not so slowly destroying the morals and values that were the foundation of this nation; and someday soon it is going to lead to our downfall.
    You don't have any discernible morals or values. To date you have not provided any philosophical or spiritual basis to explain your positions. It's almost sociopathic how you approach these discussions.
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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Tolerance IS the problem. I was taught that the acceptance of an improper act makes one as much at fault as committing that act yourself. We are not so slowly destroying the morals and values that were the foundation of this nation; and someday soon it is going to lead to our downfall.
    By living in America, paying taxes, buying things here and paying sales tax, etc. you are supporting the TOLERANCE that America offers.

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