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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    One more state that I won't be visiting any time soon; assuming this happens.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The basic stuff makes babies, which continues the species. But survival of those offspring is benefited by a bonded pair. Sex for fun, of any kind as long as the two like it, strengthens the bond, which enhances survivability of the offspring. So the field is open to debate as whether it is an "aberration" from biologically normal or if it becomes normal because it has a positive effect on not just survival of the species, but its increase.
    Gay couples with children are also bonded pairs, and being married strengthens that bond.

    A thinking and learned Christian knows that you can't impose your moral beliefs on society or individuals for that matter. Christianity is a personal relationship with God. You don't become a Christian and then have a relationship. The relationship comes first and that makes you a Christian.

    We have a government and a country/culture which respects religion, but doesn't follow one. Therefore, the Christian can't expect the rest of the country and the military to follow Christian morals unless there is a clear majority that favors it, and that moral position has a secular benefit as well. One that outweighs the alternative. One that has a basis independent from religion.
    Yes, and banning same-sex marriage doesn't have a secular benefit. You have absolutely nothing to gain by preventing two men from getting married, nor do you stand to lose anything if they do get married.

    From a more legal perspective, discrimination on the basis of gender must pass intermediate judicial scrutiny, meaning:
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    In order to overcome the intermediate scrutiny test, it must be shown that the law or policy being challenged furthers an important government interest in a way that is substantially related to that interest.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    One more state that I won't be visiting any time soon; assuming this happens.
    Poor tigger might be forced to gay marry before long
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Poor tigger might be forced to gay marry before long
    Considering the way this country is going your sarcasm has a little too much truth in it for my tastes. Though it's much more likely that I would have to deal with it in other ways that I don't care to think about.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Why not make homosexuality a choice? if there was a pill I'd probably take it, being gay in most parts of the world is no fun, even in the U.S. (which only fully legalized homosexuality..what like 9 years ago?) 1 in 4 gay kids commit suicide
    People above joked about wanting to be gay because of the sex, well when its impossible to have anything more than that am sure a lot of you would reconsider...

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Considering the way this country is going your sarcasm has a little too much truth in it for my tastes. Though it's much more likely that I would have to deal with it in other ways that I don't care to think about.
    I love the perpetual fear that is inherent to conservatism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I love the perpetual fear that is inherent to conservatism.
    Fear forces preparedness. Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance when the **** hits the fan. When that day does arrive you're all going to be banging on the doors of your local Conservative begging for food, water, clothes, shelter, weapnos and ammunition, etc.... Whether it's WWIII or just the next natural disaster, this is proven time after time.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    LGBT demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    yeah, it's wiki, but it's still relatively unbiased isn't it?

    As of April 2011, approximately 3.5% of American adults identify as lesbian, gay or bisexual, while 0.3% are transgender—approximately 11.7 million Americans.

    Why would you let 3.5% of the overall population have so much power over you?

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Why would you let 3.5% of the overall population have so much power over you?
    It's not just the 3.5% who self-identify that way who are the problem. It's the millions of people who accept these ideologies as appropriate who are just as much the problem. They are the passive co-conspirators in this mess that keep the problem from ever being fixed or dealt with.

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    Re: Wash. has enough votes to legalize gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Fear forces preparedness.
    It also fosters paranoia and irrational thinking.

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