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Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (R) Detained by TSA.

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Not allowing someone entry to an area isn't arresting them, neither is escorting them from a place they have no right of access to. He deprived himself of the right by not complying with the process.
 
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Ikari said:
Since when have our politicians been subjected to TSA? Well at the very least, good for Rand Paul. TSA is out of hand and should be abolished.
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Because private industry did such a bang-up job beforehand, right?

There are lots of things that are "out of hand" but sometimes there's this strange option I've heard of, "fix it" rather than "kill it."
 
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Ron Paul renewed his call to eliminate the TSA, part of his efforts to rein in government spending. He and his son have been frequent critics of the TSA and its pat-down checks.
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And do what then?
 
Tigger said:
I don't believe the article states that he was arrested. He was detained pending a pat-down which he refused to agree to. In my mind that SHOULD be a Felony (though I am well aware that it is not).
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He was not allowed to leave or board his plane. He offered to go back though the screening machine again, but the TSA agents refused. He refused to be fondled, so a standoff occurred. I thought Senators could bypass airline security checks.

I would hate to be the next TSA official to testify before the Committee on Homeland Security, which Paul is a member of.
 
This monstrosity of an organization needs to be ended. I constantly see waste in their program.
 
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Deuce said:
Correction: "an innocent American citizen decided that security procedures don't apply to him, because he's IMPORTANT, DAMNIT so they should change procedures just for his special snowflake self."
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But he was named after the veritable Goddess of libertarianism, Deuce. That makes him, like, a God once removed or something, doesn't it?

At least they ddn't try to frisk Ayn Paul or John Gault Paul. All hell would have broken loose.
 
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American said:
What doesn't the TSA understand about the Constitution? The story above clearly states he was going to Washington.
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Wow, this was a great time to make a point about how either the TSA was going overboard, or how even Senators have to be treated like everyone else.

Instead, you find a point about how Senators get special privileges.
 
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Gardener said:
But he was named after the veritable Goddess of libertarianism, Deuce. That makes him, like, a God once removed or something, doesn't it?

At least they ddn't try to frisk Ayn Paul or John Gault Paul. All hell would have broken loose.
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He wasn't named after Ayn Rand. It's just short for Randall. Though the choice of nickname is peculiar.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice if they could keep him indefinately?
 
Gill said:
He was not allowed to leave or board his plane. He offered to go back though the screening machine again, but the TSA agents refused. He refused to be fondled, so a standoff occurred. I thought Senators could bypass airline security checks.
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I would most certainly hope not. Then again I'm of the opinion that if we're really interested in airline security, that we strip search everyone, put them in straitjackets and hoods, seat them in 5 point restraints in the aircraft, and just leave them there for the duration of the flight
 
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American said:
What doesn't the TSA understand about the Constitution? The story above clearly states he was going to Washington.
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First, the story states nothing of the kind. Second, he was not arrested. I'm quite sure he was free to leave the airport. Or do you know something the rest of the world doesn't?
 
Blue_State said:
This monstrosity of an organization needs to be ended. I constantly see waste in their program.
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Until another plane is bombed, I'd say they do okay. They could do better, but the whining about TSA in this country is astounding to me.
 
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Pinkie said:
Wouldn't it be nice if they could keep him indefinately?
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yes, it would be great if a militant arm of the government indefiniately held our politicians such that they could not represent their state in Congress or voice disapproval to legislation. Hell, let's detain all of congress; right? I mean, it'd be such a great thing.

why have people these days somehow lost the ability to use their brains?
 
KevinKohler said:
Soooo......then....is this a statement that we should...er....PROFILE more? Stating that little kids, granny, and Paul aren't carrying a bomb is profiling, just as surely as stating that someone with a middle eastern sounding name, tan skin and dark hair is more likely to have a bomb...


Or this saying that we shouldn't have these added security measures?
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Whose to say a senator has no bomb? Half of them seem insane to me.
 
Tigger said:
I would most certainly hope not. Then again I'm of the opinion that if we're really interested in airline security, that we strip search everyone, put them in straitjackets and hoods, seat them in 5 point restraints in the aircraft, and just leave them there for the duration of the flight
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If it were anyone else, I'd think you're being sarcastic. You? Not so sure... :rofl
 
Tigger said:
I'm well aware of who he is and what he's about. I also disagree with him about as completely as possible. If I were a TSA agent, I'd be singling him out for additional screening every time he came through. The same with his father.
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yeah, but anyone you completely disagree with is likely the best choice for the Republic and for freedom. So there's that.
 
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Ikari said:
yes, it would be great if a militant arm of the government indefiniately held our politicians such that they could not represent their state in Congress or voice disapproval to legislation. Hell, let's detain all of congress; right? I mean, it'd be such a great thing.

why have people these days somehow lost the ability to use their brains?
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I was being SARCASTIC. If it consoles you any, they could keep Kucinich, too.
 
MaggieD said:
If it were anyone else, I'd think you're being sarcastic. You? Not so sure... :rofl
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When have I ever been sarcastic, Maggie?


Ikari said:
yeah, but anyone you completely disagree with is likely the best choice for the Republic and for freedom. So there's that.
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Well, if you like the Republic and Freedom, I'm probably not your guy.
 
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Deuce said:
Because private industry did such a bang-up job beforehand, right?
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fairly decent. Terrorist attack was rare.

Deuce said:
There are lots of things that are "out of hand" but sometimes there's this strange option I've heard of, "fix it" rather than "kill it."
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Fix only that which is worth fixing. TSA is not worth fixing, it is a questionable assault on our freedom at best. Government run authoritative branch aimed against our rights and liberties for the sake of "safety", but how much safer are we? Moderate changes to what was already in place would have accomplished as much as TSA and all its overbearing rules and questionable practices have produced.
 
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Gina said:
And do what then?
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Do what? We had security before 9/11. Some slight changes to that without creating an abusive government agency would have sufficed.
 
Re: Sen. Rand Paul ‘detained’ by TSA in Nashville, TSA denies

The story tells me two things. Firstly, the law at least usually applies to the powerful. This is good. Secondly, Paul feels the same feelings that many people share, that the TSA is far too invasive, and it does not have the right to search us as thoroughly as they do. Good on Paul.
 
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Pinkie said:
I was being SARCASTIC. If it consoles you any, they could keep Kucinich, too.
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I cannot pick up sarcasm online. And Kucinich is fine, no need to detain him.
 
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MaggieD said:
First, the story states nothing of the kind.
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It does if you click on the link and read the rest.

Second, he was not arrested. I'm quite sure he was free to leave the airport.
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Yep. He was never arrested, simply not allowed to board the plane. He can get to Washington by horse and buggy like they did when the Constitution was written.
 
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