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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Ah. Your best chance is to make sure terrorists can't get on the plane, but okay.
    It will happen eventually though. All probabilities given enough time work out. In fact, terrorists seem to be rather stupid because there is an easy way to cause massive damage and disruption without going through TSA. You just wait for one of the busiest travel days, coordinate at a couple of the very large international airports, and bomb the TSA line itself. You're not searched before you get in line, and you don't even need a boarding pass if the goal is to blow up the line proper. But they apparently haven't thought of something so evident yet. I'm not really concerned with terrorism; there are well greater probabilities of harm and death in my daily life than terrorism itself. I'd rather keep my dignity and my rights then to excuse draconian and abusive measures against us as a whole for some perceived increase in safety.

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    Says you.

    In the end, it's a matter of personal preference (discounting the legal problems). But I haven't been searched yet, so maybe I'll change my mind if I am.
    Says me indeed. The only impact TSA has had on my personally has been overall negative.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Okay, well they definitely do random vehicle checks at both borders, so that just means you weren't one of the random checks.


    Yeah, the 9th said, "airport screening searches, like the one at issue here, are constitutionally reasonable administrative searches because they are conducted as part of a general regulatory scheme in furtherance of an administrative purpose, namely, to prevent the carrying of weapons or explosives aboard aircraft, and thereby to prevent hijackings". I agree with that ruling and I have a feeling the Supreme Court will too. The 9th's ruling is all I need for 'verification' although I think the only actual 'verification' I need for my interpretation of the 4th Amendment is the Constitution itself.

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    The 9th isn't the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The 9th isn't the Supreme Court.
    Obviously - which is why I said, "I agree with that ruling and I have a feeling the Supreme Court will too." Future tense there.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, especially on a plane with a pressurized hull made of thin metal that a bullet can go through.

    Not sure how much it deters terrorists on a suicide mission either. It might stop them, but they won't be afraid to take the risk.
    Yeah, it's just an all around ridiculous situation. Who knows what would happen if some antsy passenger thought someone was a terrorist and started shooting. Armed citizens on plans is a ridiculous idea.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Obviously - which is why I said, "I agree with that ruling and I have a feeling the Supreme Court will too." Future tense there.
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    What do you mean? The Supreme Court has already verified it.


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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post

    ..................
    And again, in my second post, I said, "I agree with that ruling and I have a feeling the Supreme Court will too," after you mentioned that the 9th, not the SC, had ruled on it. Future tense.

    In any case, I'm not sure how any of this has an affect on what we were talking about.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    And again, in my second post, I said, "I agree with that ruling and I have a feeling the Supreme Court will too," after you mentioned that the 9th, not the SC, had ruled on it. Future tense.

    In any case, I'm not sure how any of this has an affect on what we were talking about.
    I often wonder that.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I often wonder that.
    That's probably the most asked question on this entire board actually.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Says me indeed. The only impact TSA has had on my personally has been overall negative.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Yeah, it's just an all around ridiculous situation. Who knows what would happen if some antsy passenger thought someone was a terrorist and started shooting. Armed citizens on plans is a ridiculous idea.
    1. Frangible ammo that won't penetrate the fuselage.

    2. Assumption that armed citizens are utter idiots who'd spray bullets around a crowded plane at random? No evidence that this assertion is correct. Existing stats indicate that lawfully armed citizens have an extremely low rate of arrest, or revokation of permit, or shooting the wrong person.

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