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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Look, I personally think that the pat-down procedure is overreaching on the TSA's part but in what freaking universe should congresspeople get special treatment under the law? Maybe being forced to get an embarrassing pat-down would make more congresspeople rethink this TSA problem. Paul, obviously, was already of the opinion that this is too much, but that still isn't a reason he should be exempt from it.

    There's two possibilities here: Paul really did think he should be treated as a special snowflake or Paul was trying to make a political point by protesting. (a point I agree with) In either case, the TSA personnel did exactly what they were supposed to do.
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    Re: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (R) Detained by TSA.

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    I'm well aware of who he is and what he's about. I also disagree with him about as completely as possible. If I were a TSA agent, I'd be singling him out for additional screening every time he came through. The same with his father.
    I understand your view that the primary function of government and law enforcement is to target, harass and arrest citizens who state any opposition. Fortunately you are not a TSA agent or in any law enforcement or government position.

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

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    Look, I personally think that the pat-down procedure is overreaching on the TSA's part but in what freaking universe should congresspeople get special treatment under the law? Maybe being forced to get an embarrassing pat-down would make more congresspeople rethink this TSA problem. Paul, obviously, was already of the opinion that this is too much, but that still isn't a reason he should be exempt from it.

    There's two possibilities here: Paul really did think he should be treated as a special snowflake or Paul was trying to make a political point by protesting. (a point I agree with) In either case, the TSA personnel did exactly what they were supposed to do.
    I absolutely disagree. If a person refuses a pat down the most they should be able to do is escort him out of the airport.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Somebody trips a scanner in front of me, and refuses a pat-down should be tazed until he complies, then thrown off the premises.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    I guess the law that applies to us does not apply to him.
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    Re: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (R) Detained by TSA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I don't believe the article states that he was arrested. He was detained pending a pat-down which he refused to agree to. In my mind that SHOULD be a Felony (though I am well aware that it is not).
    What ought to be (and in fact is, if one properly considers the Constitutionality of the whole TSA clusterfoxtrot) a felony is compelling any innocent civilian—in the lack of sufficient evidence to satisfy the Fourth Amendment's standards for such searches—to submit to invasive searches of their persons up to what amounts to a sexual assault; as a condition of being allowed to freely travel.

    This is of course, true even if one doesn't further account for the special protections given in Article I Section 6 of the Constitution, to elected representatives traveling as necessary to perform their duties. What happened here to Senator Paul in this instance, if it doesn't outright cross the line, it certainly comes very close to exactly the sort of abuse that this provision is intend to prevent. This has the look of an intentional effort to prevent the Senator from returning to Washington in a timely manner, in order to perform his role in the legislative process. Given his previously-stated opposition to the abuses of the TSA, this can certainly be seen as a deliberate effort on their part to corrupt the legislative process in their own favor, by preventing the legitimate participation of an elected representative that they know is likely to vote against their interests.

    Someone needs to be arrested for this, and someone needs to spend a very, very, very long time in prison, as an example to others who might consider similar attempts to corrupt the legislative process in any similar manner.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    He's a Senator, right? Unless he's introduced or otherwise supported legislation to stop patdowns, he's a hypocrite. He's not above the law. Seriously. Gimme' a break. I can just hear him: "Do you know who I am????!!!! STFU and spread 'em.
    I don't know if he has introduced legislation or not, but he is very much publically on record as being against the TSA screening program.
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    Re: Rand Paul detained by TSA

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, first of all, he wasn't arrested. Secondly, what makes you think he was headed to or returning from Washington, DC? Now, you may say, "Yes, but he was "detained!" He wouldn't have been detained had he turned around and left the airport. Congress Critters are not immune.
    The point is that the TSA willfully, deliberately interfered with his attempt to return to Washington to perform his duties as a Senator. There is nothing whatsoever in this situation that gives the TSA the authority to violate Article I Section 6 of the Constitution, which very clearly prohibits any such interference with the travel of elected representatives to and from the capital in the performance of their duties. There is no evidence that this Senator was in any way guilty of any felony, treason, or breach of peace; therefore he had an absolute right, under this provision of the Constitution, to travel unmolested to the capitol to perform his duties. The TSA violated this. The agents responsible need to be arrested and thrown in prison.
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