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    South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Already, there has been some question into folks who cast their ballots on Saturday. South Carolina's Attorney General, Alan Wilson has notified the U.S. Justice Department of potential voter fraud. Wilson says an analysis found 953 ballots cast by voters were people who are listed as dead. He has asked the State Law Enforcement Division to investigate.
    There's no problem with voter fraud in this country!!

    Yes. Yes, there is.

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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

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    What is this, Chicago?

    Well I hope they investigate and can find any wrong doings.
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Well, at least this time I can't say, only in South Carolina.
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Nothing I've read in this "article" or others have said it was due the lack of requirement of a photo ID, do you know something the investigators do not???
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just something you should realize. More than 230,000 people voted for Gringrich. Mitt Romney received nearly 170,000 votes. If we were to take those 900 votes and remove them because of voter fraud, how would that even remotely change the election outcome? I must remind you, in 2008 - Obama beat McCain by more than 5 million votes every single victory he had over Hillary was in the thousands of votes. So what exactly is this big crisis of voting that we're facing? A few discrepancies here and there? Sure. The massive voter fraud you're making it out to be? Hardly.
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Of course voter fraud is a problem. It's not a very big one in terms of affecting the actual outcomes of elections, but it's an affront to democracy. Well, one additional caveat. Voter fraud in the sense of people voting twice or casting dead people's ballots... not common enough to actually effect an election. All the mucking about in Florida in 2000? Jeb Bush and his cronies preventing ten thousand people from voting in order to tip the scales towards his brother? That's a serious voting fraud issue. Tampering with voting machines (which also took place in Florida in 2000), to disregard some votes is also a huge issue.

    An honest electoral process is integral to the meaning of democratic government. When people try to game the system, we all lose out.

    Because voter ID came up in the thread, I'll address that, too. The net effect of voter ID requirements is fewer people voting. The few individuals who are abusing the system may well be stopped, but a far greater number of legitimate votes would be stopped as well. This whole voter ID movement, that's just another attempt to game the system. Just like gerrymandering, just like cold calling people to convince them not to vote. All of it. It's despicable.
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I thought Republicans never cheated!

    Oh, and once an investigation is completed, they are likely to find that it's a poll worker mix-up (similar sounding names or matching names). Something like this happened in Indiana when I lived there and everyone freaked out. They investigated and nearly every single one of them was a legal voter and the poll worker messed up due to either the exact same name or a similar sounding name.

    That's the problem. Everyone freaks out and jumps to conclusions and pretends that everything is going to collapse because of "dead voters".

    They haven't investigated anything yet. So, as such, what is the Attorney General's agenda in making this public before the investigation?

    And how much do you want to bet when the investigation is complete and no criminal intent to commit fraud is found (as I said, it's very likely simple error) that the AG will say absolutely nothing?

    Why? Because this story will linger and Republicans can use it to say "Voter fraud DOES exist".

    This happens every election cycle. Put out a story about suspicion and ignore the story when all the facts prove nothing.

    Of course, I'll use it to say, Republicans obviously are the cheaters, so maybe ID laws are to prevent Republican cheating.

    After all, the first person arrested under Indiana's new voter fraud laws? The Republican Secretary of State who is supposed to oversee elections and verify that they are legitimate.

    Secretary of State Charlie White indicted for voter fraud

    (It's just for fun, honestly - Republicans don't really cheat necessarily any more than Democrats do - they just do their damnedest to keep people from voting freely).

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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nothing I've read in this "article" or others have said it was due the lack of requirement of a photo ID, do you know something the investigators do not???
    Cat. Where did I say anything about photo i.d.s? Or do you know something the rest of us do not???

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Just something you should realize. More than 230,000 people voted for Gringrich. Mitt Romney received nearly 170,000 votes. If we were to take those 900 votes and remove them because of voter fraud, how would that even remotely change the election outcome? I must remind you, in 2008 - Obama beat McCain by more than 5 million votes every single victory he had over Hillary was in the thousands of votes. So what exactly is this big crisis of voting that we're facing? A few discrepancies here and there? Sure. The massive voter fraud you're making it out to be? Hardly.
    Where did you get the idea I thought there was massive voter fraud? Boy, you guys sure do "read between the lines...."

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    I thought Republicans never cheated!

    Oh, and once an investigation is completed, they are likely to find that it's a poll worker mix-up (similar sounding names or matching names). Something like this happened in Indiana when I lived there and everyone freaked out. They investigated and nearly every single one of them was a legal voter and the poll worker messed up due to either the exact same name or a similar sounding name.

    That's the problem. Everyone freaks out and jumps to conclusions and pretends that everything is going to collapse because of "dead voters".

    They haven't investigated anything yet. So, as such, what is the Attorney General's agenda in making this public before the investigation?

    And how much do you want to bet when the investigation is complete and no criminal intent to commit fraud is found (as I said, it's very likely simple error) that the AG will say absolutely nothing?

    Why? Because this story will linger and Republicans can use it to say "Voter fraud DOES exist".

    This happens every election cycle. Put out a story about suspicion and ignore the story when all the facts prove nothing.

    Of course, I'll use it to say, Republicans obviously are the cheaters, so maybe ID laws are to prevent Republican cheating.

    After all, the first person arrested under Indiana's new voter fraud laws? The Republican Secretary of State who is supposed to oversee elections and verify that they are legitimate.

    Secretary of State Charlie White indicted for voter fraud

    (It's just for fun, honestly - Republicans don't really cheat necessarily any more than Democrats do - they just do their damnedest to keep people from voting freely).
    Who said it was Republicans? Where are you guys getting your "facts?"
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Actually, it's more likely that it's electoral fraud than voter fraud
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    Re: South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud during primaries

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Cat. Where did I say anything about photo i.d.s? Or do you know something the rest of us do not???
    The only voter fraud issues in the current news has been the very tiny number of voter fraud the right has tried to inflate to justify restricting poor people from voting.

    You may have thought your attempt to lend credibility to this inflated voter fraud problem went unnoticed. It didn't.
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