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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Federal Official In Arizona To Plead The Fifth And Not Answer Questions On 'furious' | Fox News

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    Cunningham is represented by Tobin Romero of Williams and Connolly who is a specialist in white collar crime.
    I am writing to advise you that my client is going to assert his constitutional privilege not to be compelled to be a witness against himself." Romero told Issa.
    After seeing this photo I completely understand why liberal supporters think Obama, Patrick J. Cunningham, and Eric Holder had no clue about the Fast and Furious Operation.

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    easy answer to this
    give him immunity from prosecution based on the information he provides
    motivate him to tell all

    then sit back and have DOJ explain exactly what it was that he communicated, which information was passed to the committee and then was found to be non-factual
    then go after the DOJ liar. either cunningham or another high up DOJ official
    Or, they could get all the info needed, without him, and send his ass to prison along with the rest of them.

    Yeah! I like that scenario.
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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    No, since it is merely your opinion... one that I don't think a informed, rational person would adopt. I therefore have little or no interest in it.

    I would ask, however, if you're aware that the'gun running' sting has been in operation since about 2005?
    Karl it's been explained to you in great detail the huge difference between Fast & Furious and Wide Reciever:

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    I can only handle this much stupid in small bits because its so wrong headed its touch to sort out.

    The differences between Wide Reciever and Fast and Furious are as follows: Wide Reciever was done with full cooperation and support of the Mexican government and its scope was very limited and interdiction of the arms was capable in all aspects of the operation. Meaning they could go after the guns at every step due to Mexican government cooperation and support. Fast & Furious did neither of these and the distribution was both larger and less controlled. Tracking of the guns was lost after 1 or 2 steps of the process. While Holder did not try to equate the two because to do so is rediculous, you did--Holder does not share your viewpoint. Meaning ---they are not equateable. BDS, pure and simple.

    Lastly, the racial thing? If the guy in the DOJ were white and the President in the matter were white, I think things would be moving faster in this ivestigation, not slower.
    BTW I find your comments calling Brian Terry's grieving family "racist" disgusting.
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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, they could get all the info needed, without him, and send his ass to prison along with the rest of them.

    Yeah! I like that scenario.
    no doubt. but as usual, the scenario you prefer makes no sense
    the DOJ in DC insists that the assistant AG in the field has misrepresented the facts
    the assistant AG in the field believes the DOJ washington folks are looking to scape goat him for their untruthful submissions to the congressional inquiry
    so, we have two offices of DOJ whose positions do not reconcile
    to prove one wrong it is likely that the other must be found to be telling the truth
    that will be difficult to establish without offering immunity to the assistant AG in the field - who is now standing on his rights against self incrimination

    but you insist such immunity is not needed. that the congress can determine who is truthful without offering such incentive to tell all. tell us how the congress will be able to gather the information needed to make the right call without offering immunity
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    but you insist such immunity is not needed. that the congress can determine who is truthful without offering such incentive to tell all. tell us how the congress will be able to gather the information needed to make the right call without offering immunity
    They cant if Holder and DOJ keep ignoring subpeoneas, with holding information, and witnesses refuse to testify. Hard to get at the truth when DOJ isnt complying with oversight.

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    [...] After seeing this photo I completely understand why liberal supporters think Obama, Patrick J. Cunningham, and Eric Holder had no clue about the Fast and Furious Operation.

    atf-operation-fast-and-furious.jpg
    I suspect that you don't know what your photo is. Since you did not provide a link to it, that would indicate at the very least that you don't want anyone else to know what it is.

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, they could get all the info needed, without him, and send his ass to prison along with the rest of them. Yeah! I like that scenario.
    Would there be a trial in that scenario? One with, like, a jury?

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Holder is not paid to be able to pin the blame on an underling, much less let the underling take the fall. Holder is not paid to maintain plausable deniabiltiy for his office while the rest of his organization is as ****.

    Sorry libs, but Holder is the most guilty here. He goes out on his ass.

    If he is there after the GOP has a nominee, we are gonna shove Holder down Obama's throat. May they both choke to death, the scumbags.
    The investigation into Holder is going to be stonewalled as much as possible to limit damage to Obama before the election. This looks like the classic "cover up is bigger the bigger crime" scenario.

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    easy answer to this
    give him immunity from prosecution based on the information he provides
    motivate him to tell all

    then sit back and have DOJ explain exactly what it was that he communicated, which information was passed to the committee and then was found to be non-factual
    then go after the DOJ liar. either cunningham or another high up DOJ official
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But Holder should stay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not if he is the higher up official who misrepresented the facts to the committee
    if that was found to be him he should be fired, and possibly prosecuted for perjury before the congressional committee
    but i would prefer to act on facts
    At this point, it just doesn't matter if Holder did anything wrong or not. The DoJ is so dirty on this, especially in light of this latest development, that it's time for the Attorney General to fall on his own sword.

    When you're the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the nation, you need to be above reproach in order to do your job right.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US Attorney in Arizona pleads 5th in Furious testimony

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    At this point, it just doesn't matter if Holder did anything wrong or not. [....]When you're the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the nation, you need to be above reproach in order to do your job right.
    So, Holder should resign even if he's done nothing wrong, because since Republicans don't like him -- or don't like the president -- he can't do his job right?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The DoJ is so dirty on this, [....]
    Dirty how? (facts please)

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    [...] in light of this latest development, [...]
    What development? A man taking the 5th because a partisan Congressman is trying to use him as a pawn to net larger fish?

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