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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I agree, too.

    That said, isn't it more than a bit hypocritical that conservatives are so adamant about this, while at the same time insisting that this is NOT a democracy, and that there should not be a "tyranny of the majority"? Why is it that some minorities, but not others, should call the shots?
    Is this a joke? Conservatives are far more likely to respect the will of the voter (for better or worse depending on your POV). It's liberals who decry notions like "tyranny of the majority" (not saying that's good or bad, it's just reality).
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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Is this a joke? Conservatives are far more likely to respect the will of the voter (for better or worse depending on your POV). It's liberals who decry notions like "tyranny of the majority" (not saying that's good or bad, it's just reality).
    Have you been living under a rock for the last five years? The Republican minority in Congress is the most obstructive in modern memory. They continually work to thwart the will of the majority.

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Have you been living under a rock for the last five years? The Republican minority in Congress is the most obstructive in modern memory. They continually work to thwart the will of the majority.
    Partisan hackery. remind me about the MINORITY dem senate blocking Estrada's appointment to the CoA on racist grounds.

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Partisan hackery. remind me about the MINORITY dem senate blocking Estrada's appointment to the CoA on racist grounds.
    Not familiar with that one, but one example does not a trend make. The fact is that many conservatives defend the obstruction by explicitly stating that we do NOT live in a democracy, and by decrying the "tyranny of the majority" -- and then become apoplectic if districts are manipulated to give a different minority greater representation.

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not familiar with that one, but one example does not a trend make. The fact is that many conservatives defend the obstruction by explicitly stating that we do NOT live in a democracy, and by decrying the "tyranny of the majority" -- and then become apoplectic if districts are manipulated to give a different minority greater representation.
    so when libs run to court when the voters reject gay marriage that is the right being disrespectful of the will of the majority?

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so when libs run to court when the voters reject gay marriage that is the right being disrespectful of the will of the majority?
    You mean in California, where the anti-marriage forces were largely funded by Mormons from outside of California? Last time I checked, Utah wasn't part of the California electorate.

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You mean in California, where the anti-marriage forces were largely funded by Mormons from outside of California? Last time I checked, Utah wasn't part of the California electorate.
    Did those pro-traditional marriage voters from outside California vote?No they didn't. It was pro-traditional marriage voters from inside California that voted and why a majority of California voter said yes to traditional marriage and rejected gay marriage.
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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Can we all agree that county borders should dictate House district boundaries? Then, use regions like central, northwest, southwest, etc to group the counties. Done.
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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You mean in California, where the anti-marriage forces were largely funded by Mormons from outside of California? Last time I checked, Utah wasn't part of the California electorate.
    well lots of union money flowed into Ohio concerning Senate Bill 5.

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    Re: Supreme Court rejects judge-drawn Texas election maps

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did those pro-traditional marriage voters from outside California vote?No they didn't. It was pro-traditional marriage voters from inside California that voted and why a majority of California voter said yes to traditional marriage and rejected gay marriage.
    It was the elected California representatives who passed the law to begin with. It was mostly outside forces who funded the ballot initiative, and who bombarded the airwaves with advertising and funded the get out the vote campaign.

    I imagine that you would have no problem with it if our federal elections were primarily funded by, e.g. China and Saudi Arabia?

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