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Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

Sure, they should be able to tell the kid to not take them and nobody should interfere with that directive.

Sure. So you'd have to send home permission slips or something.

Kind of a waste of time, but not illegal.
 
you have missed the point

that the same school refuses to similarly offer the written tracts about paganism (or any other religious ideology) evidences a religious preference is something which cannot be (legally) done by a governmental institution

That is the whole point. Why is this concept so hard to understand?
 
Because you were incorrect in attributing it to the Consitution. Say you were mistaken and I drop it, or continue to squirm. :shrug:

When one says "the Constitution says X" when they really mean that a court has interpreted the Constitution that way, most people understand that and don't get all huffy about it.
 
you have missed the point

that the same school refuses to similarly offer the written tracts about paganism (or any other religious ideology) evidences a religious preference is something which cannot be (legally) done by a governmental institution

Correct.

But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.
 
Sure. So you'd have to send home permission slips or something.

Kind of a waste of time, but not illegal.

I don't know they exact particulars that would work the best. If it was up to me I would indeed send home a paper explaining that a variety of information would be available to students if the parents wished for them to have it. Send the paper back signed or something.

I'm not even argueing that this is a great idea. Just that it's something that can be done.
 
her motivations for providing the tracts about the ideology she prefers has no bearing on this matter if the school is going to be the conduit of religious ideology of one religion then it is obligated to also serve as the same conduit for any other ... including paganism
Her intial complaint was not that the school was discriminating against her religion. Her initial complaint was that the school was offering bibles. After she made her initial complaint, the school stopped offering any religious material. After the school stopped offering religious material, the woman showed up to offer pagan books and was turned away. She was turned away because the school was investigating her initial complaint, and was not offering any religious material during the investigation. The school was not offering bibles when the woman wanted to offer witchcraft books. The woman then turns to the media and claims discrimination. There is no evidence that the school refused wiccan books while it offered bibles. All of this fuss is only because she was pissed that her son came home with a bible. She is intorrent and is taking it out on the biggest bank account she can find.
 
Correct.

But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.

Schools do not IMO have the right to overrule the wishes of the parents.
 
Now this is an issue on separation of church and state on which I can agree. There are a lot of silly and petty complaints about separation which I have commented against but this won't be one of them. This is a clear violation of the law.
 
Correct.

But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.

the professor quoted within the cited article got it right
the school must decide to make no such religious books available or it must make them available for any religion
in this instance, the school wrongly opted to only allow the religious teachings of the Christian faith and excluded that of another (pagan) religion
were i the one making such determination, i would prohibit allowing any such texts to be given out; but it is clear this school administration is so ignorant about this matter they should no longer be in a position to make such choices
 
Correct.

But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.

Again, the school isn't distributing the texts, the students are. That is where you are just flat out wrong. Students and non-school officials are allowed to pass out flyers, documents, texts, etc.
 
I don't know they exact particulars that would work the best. If it was up to me I would indeed send home a paper explaining that a variety of information would be available to students if the parents wished for them to have it. Send the paper back signed or something.

I'm not even argueing that this is a great idea. Just that it's something that can be done.

As a parent, I'd write on the permission slip: "why are you wasting time with this crap? If I want my kid to have a Bible or whatever, I'll just buy him one. Just teach him math and stop this nonsense."
 
Again, the school isn't distributing the texts, the students are. That is where you are just flat out wrong. Students and non-school officials are allowed to pass out flyers, documents, texts, etc.

The school can't just absolve responsibility for what happens at a school by saying the students are the ones doing it.
 
As a parent, I'd write on the permission slip: "why are you wasting time with this crap? If I want my kid to have a Bible or whatever, I'll just buy him one. Just teach him math and stop this nonsense."

There are those that would do this concerning evolution also.
 
the professor quoted within the cited article got it right
the school must decide to make no such religious books available or it must make them available for any religion
in this instance, the school wrongly opted to only allow the religious teachings of the Christian faith and excluded that of another (pagan) religion
were i the one making such determination, i would prohibit allowing any such texts to be given out; but it is clear this school administration is so ignorant about this matter they should no longer be in a position to make such choices

No, like I said, this isn't about access to the school by different religions. It's about the right of the students who are being given the bibles or whatever. This isn't the public square, it's a school.
 
Bibles distributed to public school students?

People who wants their religion promoted in public schools, almost always Christians, should be careful what they hope for. You have to also allow witch's spell books and the Quran to be equally promoted.


Ginger Strivelli, who practices Witchcraft, a form of Paganism, said she was upset when her 12-year-old son [who did not wish to be photographed for this article] came home from North Windy Ridge intermediate school with a Bible.


Pagan Mom Challenges Bible Giveaway At North Carolina School | Fox News

I have no problem with different religious books being distrusted in schools,if one religious group is allowed to distribute their books to kids then other groups should be allowed as well. I am not a anti-religious bigot.
 
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I have no problem with different religious books being distrusted in schools,if one religious group is allowed to distribute their books to kids then other groups should be allowed as well. I am not a anti-religious bigot.

I am not sure that it makes me a religious bigot that I think the parents should have the overall authority on whether or not religious materials are available at the school of their children.
 
I'm about to give up and just start trolling.

Leaving books available for students to pick up on their whim is not indoctrination.

no, it's not, but limiting the availability to just the bible might be.
 
This is an all or nothing case. Either allow it all or don't. I'm not too concerned about "religion" in school in general and I do think we've taken it a bit too far on some instances. However, you can't just hand out bibles without allowing other religious literature.
 
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