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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    We could argue that but it isn't what was happening.

    The staff allowed interested students to stop by and pick them up.

    I've seen Class yearbooks with many pages of solicitations.
    A class yearbook is full of sponsoring adds. Yes, solicitation, but in add form, and they are paying sponsors, without which, no yearbook would exist. I think of that one as a kind of necessary evil.

    If there was no solicitation about this location to pick up a copy of the bible, how did kids know about it? No announcements were made, no flyers, posters on the wall, no one sitting at the table handing them out, no nothing? Fact is, there was, likely, a stack of bibles sitting, visible, on a table, with a sign of SOME sort, saying "free, take one.....for your everlasting SOUL", lol. Dramatised, but you get my point.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A class yearbook is full of sponsoring adds. Yes, solicitation, but in add form, and they are paying sponsors, without which, no yearbook would exist. I think of that one as a kind of necessary evil.

    If there was no solicitation about this location to pick up a copy of the bible, how did kids know about it? No announcements were made, no flyers, posters on the wall, no one sitting at the table handing them out, no nothing? Fact is, there was, likely, a stack of bibles sitting, visible, on a table, with a sign of SOME sort, saying "free, take one.....for your everlasting SOUL", lol. Dramatised, but you get my point.
    I get your point......as long as others are allowed to do the same and the school decides that is what they want to do, they can.

    Equal Access Act

    The Act provides that if a school receives federal aid and has a "limited open forum," or at least one student-led non-curriculum club that meets outside of class time, it must allow additional such clubs to be organized, and must give them equal access to meeting spaces and school publications . Exceptions can be made for groups that "materially and substantially interfere with the orderly conduct of educational activities within the school," and a school can technically "opt out" of the act by prohibiting all non-curriculum clubs.

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    You will note the highlighted part above. What that means is if the school allows non-cirriculum groups to meet they must allow all. Even religious ones. Being that the case the group meeting for religious purposes like the other groups can put a note in the school paper.............

    The new lunchtime Bible study club will be meeting 10 minutes after the start of all lunch periods in room 302. For anyone interested they may stop by and pick up a free Bible.

    I'm not argueing that this is exactly what happened in this example. It's why it's in the news. They did not follow the standard set by the courts it would seem.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Statistically, more and more of them, these days. How else do kids get into drugs, booze, guns, etc etc.
    By stealing from the parents.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    By stealing from the parents.
    Whatever, they have money. I've already proven myself unscrupulous by being willing to solicit on school grounds, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    A class yearbook is full of sponsoring adds. Yes, solicitation, but in add form, and they are paying sponsors, without which, no yearbook would exist. I think of that one as a kind of necessary evil.
    Trying not to be a spelling nazi, but dammit, it's "ad" not "add." Sorry.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Sigh. Always the double standard. Pass out bibles? Then pass out wiccan, pagan, etc too.
    Religion should stay OUT of schools.
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    They weren't passing out Bibles. They were allowing interested students to pick them up. No one apparently was forced to pick up one if they didn't want to.


    The Gideons International had delivered several boxes of the sacred books to the school office. The staff allowed interested students to stop by and pick them up
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you imagine if the school was giving out the Communist manifesto? We'd NEVER hear the end of it.
    I read it in AP History class... try again
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    If I still had kids at home and my kid had a bible shoved in his hands, I would be VERY upset. How dare they push their religious propaganda on my child? He is a MINOR. He is in school to learn how to spell, count, read, understand science, etc etc etc. He is not there to learn some other scmucks religion. That is MY department. And HIS to seek out that which tickles his own ear. It not the school's responsibility to teach religion. Period.
    This isn't what happened. Nice try, though.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The question would be: Has the school allowed local Muslim elders from the mosque drop off boxes of the Quran and allow the students to pick those up as well?
    I wouldn't mind if they did... or the Catholic unabridged version of the Bible, because surely the Gideons were handing out abridged Protestant versions...
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Only Muslims are supposed to touch the Quran, so it's unlikely Muslims even tried to make it available for the infidels to defile.
    Totally not true. I engaged in studies of the Qur'an with a local imam and he not only made no objection to my reading a Qur'an, he made no objection to my entering the mosque AND he made no objection to my making comparisons with Catholic teachings in discussion...
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