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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    That is really none of your damn biz.
    No, it's not, but if she did force him to throw it away then it shows the same closed minded bigotry of all other religion.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Question : Is solicitation allowed in public schools?

    Answer : No.



    I can't go to school and advertise my services as a mechanic to the students there. Neither, then, can a religion advertise their services as soul savers. Even in the form of handing out books, even if a student has to SEEK out the place where those books are handed out.

    Elsewise, you'd see a bunch of booths outside of schools, all hawking wares at students, like some sort of open air market.

    This was solicitation. Remove religion from the equation, to clear your mind a bit, and you'll see what I'm saying.
    That would be a bad business practice.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    That would be a bad business practice.
    You kidding? High school kids drive some real beaters, and SOME of them are into the modding craze...both of which are hugely profitable to a would be unscrupulous mechanic like me. They're what, ages 16-18? With the occasional 19 year old, lol? SOME of them will have money, and I'm pretty sure that given enough time and exposure (like in the school parking lot) I'd be able to convince them to part with a bit of it, to have their car be a little more "respectable".
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The courts have had conflicting rulings.
    Equal access. It's another pretty easy one.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    This wasn't a case of having religious material "available". Putting a couple coppies of the bible, and other religious texts, in the library, is having it "available". Having people sitting in a booth handing the things out is solicitation. Big difference there.
    We could argue that but it isn't what was happening.

    The staff allowed interested students to stop by and pick them up.

    I've seen Class yearbooks with many pages of solicitations.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No, it's not, but if she did force him to throw it away then it shows the same closed minded bigotry of all other religion.
    It's still none of your business.

    Plenty of Christians would require their children to throw away non-Christian religious texts too. Big deal. Religious people believe their religion is true and nobody else's is. That shouldn't surprise anyone.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Equal access. It's another pretty easy one.
    No, it is far more complicated than that.

    Access is not the only issue. Schools are not just the public square, where anyone can just go hand things out or put up signs. The rights of students and parents are at stake too.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, it is far more complicated than that.

    Access is not the only issue. Schools are not just the public square, where anyone can just go hand things out or put up signs. The rights of students and parents are at stake too.
    I've not seen the right that is being violated yet. If the community wishes, there is the easy solution. Nobody makes anything available.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    You kidding? High school kids drive some real beaters, and SOME of them are into the modding craze...both of which are hugely profitable to a would be unscrupulous mechanic like me. They're what, ages 16-18? With the occasional 19 year old, lol? SOME of them will have money, and I'm pretty sure that given enough time and exposure (like in the school parking lot) I'd be able to convince them to part with a bit of it, to have their car be a little more "respectable".
    It's an amazing crowd to market to, but how many of them actually have the money themselves and don't rely on their parents?
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    It's an amazing crowd to market to, but how many of them actually have the money themselves and don't rely on their parents?
    Statistically, more and more of them, these days. How else do kids get into drugs, booze, guns, etc etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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