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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Comparing a Bible to poison is asinine retarded.
    If you're not smart enough to get the point, and not respectful enough to ask me clarify, don't waste my time being juvenile and insulting.

    A Bible never killed anyone.
    That's highly debatable.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If you're not smart enough to get the point, and not respectful enough to ask me clarify, don't waste my time being juvenile and insulting.



    That's highly debatable.
    Oh, I got the point, but alas, my point stands also. Comparing a bible to poison is disrespectful in itself.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Oh, I got the point, but alas, my point stands also. Comparing a bible to poison is disrespectful in itself.
    No, you don't get the point. It's an analogy. As such, it's not disrespectful either.

    If you get my point, tell me, what was my point?
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No, religion has no place being taught. There's a difference, and in no way was this kid taught anything by the school.
    I disagree. If you want your kids to learn about religion? Send em to a private school.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hmm.

    Shall we then have no Bible or Koran in the school library? No books on religion or its impact on society? No mention, in textbooks, of the importance of the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages, or the importance of monasteries in preserving knowlege after the fall of Rome? No teaching of Greek or Roman mythology/religion, no literature which discusses religion?

    Religion is actually not banned in public schools. You can have student-initiated religious activity/groups/teaching, just not staff-lead religious activity.
    Sure. You can have religious classes in High School-you know when kids are old enough to pick that they wish to learn the history of religion and/or various religions. But you damn sure cannot push religion on the children and push one religlion over another. If I had a kid and someone gave them a bible at a public school? I would be raising holy hell and it would not be pretty. I would also sue the **** outta them.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    First off, nobody made the boy pick up the bible and take it home. Maybe he wanted to see what Christianity was about instead of being "birthed" into paganism. I'd like to know if the mom made the boy throw it away.
    Secondly, if you're going to allow one religious text to be given away then you have to allow them all to be given away.
    That is really none of your damn biz.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Sure. You can have religious classes in High School-you know when kids are old enough to pick that they wish to learn the history of religion and/or various religions. But you damn sure cannot push religion on the children and push one religlion over another. If I had a kid and someone gave them a bible at a public school? I would be raising holy hell and it would not be pretty. I would also sue the **** outta them.
    No one handed the kids in the OP story a bible.The bibles were left out for the kids to take.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No one handed the kids in the OP story a bible.The bibles were left out for the kids to take.
    And again, that's no excuse. These are children we're talking about.

    I don't know the age of the kid in the OP - and I agree that the age matters - but let's dispense with the notion that if you just leave stuff out, the school has no responsibility. If you just leave poison out, and a first-grader eats it, that's not the child's fault. These are not adults, and the school has a responsibility to respect the rights of parents to control what religious doctrine a child learns, and making religious texts available to kids - even if they are just sitting there to be picked up and not handed out - may violate that right. To use another analogy - if you put a "Jesus saves" poster on a school wall, you couldn't just say that it's okay because the kids don't have to actually read it.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I don't know the age of the kid in the OP - and I agree that the age matters - but let's dispense with the notion that if you just leave stuff out, the school has no responsibility. If you just leave poison out, and a first-grader eats it, that's not the child's fault. These are not adults, and the school has a responsibility to respect the rights of parents to control what religious doctrine a child learns, and making religious texts available to kids - even if they are just sitting there to be picked up and not handed out - may violate that right. To use another analogy - if you put a "Jesus saves" poster on a school wall, you couldn't just say that it's okay because the kids don't have to actually read it.
    So, why do you think the bible is "poison" but other books (say fiction or even some non-fiction) aren't? What makes the bible so reprehensable to you, yet a romance novel in the library not?

    I am agnostic, I don't believe that school officials should lead or force anyone in prayer, and even I can't get upset over bibles being just left as a choice for school children to pick up.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So, why do you think the bible is "poison" but other books (say fiction or even some non-fiction) aren't? What makes the bible so reprehensable to you, yet a romance novel in the library not?
    Jesus, isn't there anyone here who understands analogies?

    My point is about school responsibility vs. student responsibility. It has nothing to do with comparing the bible to poison.

    I am agnostic, I don't believe that school officials should lead or force anyone in prayer, and even I can't get upset over bibles being just left as a choice for school children to pick up.
    Good for you. Plenty of other parents WOULD be upset, and that's their right.
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