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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, you can't hand out any religious material, because these are kids being educated. Religious groups should have no access to them in a public school. This is not about the rights of people who want to express their religious views, it's about the rights of the students and parents.
    Again, the OP's article said that interested students could pick the Bibles up, not that they were handed out/distributed.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    In this case the Bibles were left for kids to pick up or not. If other items are sitting on the same table or something none of this comes in to play.



    As it is, is that schools can not discriminate with who they allow access. They can allow none, or all.
    says you, it all can still come into play. Maybe some one complains one thing was talked more than the others or left out for distribution longer or the kids seemed MORE encouraged to grab something over another.

    This is why the government has it right, no religion in public school.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What's the problem? He came home with a bible?
    Perhaps if the Wiccan groups want to have a give away, they can hand out booklets on Wicca.... It's not like they're sending Jr. home with a 5 cc syringe of high quality vein candy.
    Would you be asking the same thing if it would have been the Satanic Bible? Religion has no place in public schools.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Would you be asking the same thing if it would have been the Satanic Bible? Religion has no place in public schools.
    No, religion has no place being taught. There's a difference, and in no way was this kid taught anything by the school.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I totally disagree because the argument of inequality can always come up. One thing was distributed differently than another or only to certain students or for different periods of times etc etc etc

    Its best to leave it as it is. No religion in public schools, that what assures fairness and equality and no discrimination otherwise you have to open yourself up to 1000 different scenarios.
    If you want to nit pick it to death fine. It sounds like a cold dry school to me that kids would run away from. If a Wiccan wants to come in go for it same goes for the Jew, Christian whatever.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you want to nit pick it to death fine. It sounds like a cold dry school to me that kids would run away from. If a Wiccan wants to come in go for it same goes for the Jew, Christian whatever.
    its not nit picking its REALITY.
    Religion does not belong.
    Government has it right.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Misterman I'm sorry but you are wrong. Any religious material should be allowed to be passed out. If a wiccan walks into the school there there should be a means for them to pass it out. Same goes for Atheist the Christian and what not.
    Just saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

    This is not about religious access to schools. It is about the rights of families to control what their children learn about religion.

    The courts, who actually consider this stuff carefully, agree with me, as my earlier link shows.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Again, the OP's article said that interested students could pick the Bibles up, not that they were handed out/distributed.
    The distinction is pointless in a school setting. These are children we're talking about, they are not capable of making their own decisions about religion, including whether to pick up a religious text or not. The parents should make that decision.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    says you, it all can still come into play. Maybe some one complains one thing was talked more than the others or left out for distribution longer or the kids seemed MORE encouraged to grab something over another.

    This is why the government has it right, no religion in public school.
    THe government has not taken that position.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Just saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

    This is not about religious access to schools. It is about the rights of families to control what their children learn about religion.

    The courts, who actually consider this stuff carefully, agree with me, as my earlier link shows.
    Access of Religious Groups to Public Property.—Although government may not promote religion through its educational facilities, it may not bar student religious groups from meeting on public school property if it makes those facilities available to non-religious student groups.

    Those groups can make information available to others that want it.

    Access of Religious Groups to School Property :: First Amendment--Religion and Expression :: US Constitution :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia

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