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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I am not sure that it makes me a religious bigot that I think the parents should have the overall authority on whether or not religious materials are available at the school of their children.
    They really do not have the authority to determine that only things they agree with are available. They do have a right to determine whether or not their kid is subjected to it.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Her intial complaint was not that the school was discriminating against her religion. Her initial complaint was that the school was offering bibles. After she made her initial complaint, the school stopped offering any religious material. After the school stopped offering religious material, the woman showed up to offer pagan books and was turned away. She was turned away because the school was investigating her initial complaint, and was not offering any religious material during the investigation. The school was not offering bibles when the woman wanted to offer witchcraft books. The woman then turns to the media and claims discrimination. There is no evidence that the school refused wiccan books while it offered bibles. All of this fuss is only because she was pissed that her son came home with a bible. She is intorrent and is taking it out on the biggest bank account she can find.
    Actually, it isn't clear why the school would not allow the woman to distribute the wiccan information.

    It says that she tried to distribute it after she was assured by the school official that all donations of religious material of any kind would be allowed to be distributed, but then she was denied. It then says that they are looking into the practice and not accepting religious material donations at all. It does not say whether it was done as a result of her initial complaint or as a result of her not being able to distribute the Wiccan information.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    They really do not have the authority to determine that only things they agree with are available. They do have a right to determine whether or not their kid is subjected to it.
    I didn't think I was making an arguement for the availability or non-availability of religious materials. Throughout this thread, I have argued that the parents should have control on what happens at their local school. The group of parents, not just one individual. They can determine if religious material should be available. If they determine it should be, then all denominations, without exception should be given the same opportunities. I am arguing that the parents (group) should know what the school is providing.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I didn't think I was making an arguement for the availability or non-availability of religious materials. Throughout this thread, I have argued that the parents should have control on what happens at their local school. The group of parents, not just one individual. They can determine if religious material should be available. If they determine it should be, then all denominations, without exception should be given the same opportunities. I am arguing that the parents (group) should know what the school is providing.
    O.K. thanks. Parents should know, I agree.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    It shouldn't matter if all are treated the same. Either all religions are welcome to pass out religious books or none. To be fair, you have to establish rules as to what constitutes religious material and how often it may be handed out. I would think the smartest way to handle it is to say no religious material may be handed out. Problem solved. It is ultimately a school board issue and one - I promise you - they'd rather not handle in North Carolina or anywhere in the bible belt.

    In the South probably the best way to be do it is to make the materials available in the library where an update list would be kept. Students who want to obtain specific literature can request them from a librarian. The child must request the material.

    It would of course be much better not to have religious materials distributed on school property period.


    The ultimate dilemma, and it is going to happen, is when a non-Judeo Christian faith applies to use a school auditorium for religious services on the weekend. This happens all over America, as far as I can tell. Schools rent out their auditoriums to fledgling churches who are saving money to purchase land and build their own church. I don't have a problem with it and I never have. Makes good sense to me. Sooner or later, however, a Muslim or Wiccan, maybe even a Buddhist group will make an application to an available school and be denied on the basis of religion.










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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Local control of schools.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you imagine if the school was giving out the Communist manifesto? We'd NEVER hear the end of it.

    They don't have to hand it out, they'll be sure and ingrain it over the years...


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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    The school was in the wrong, nothing really else to say.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Only Muslims are supposed to touch the Quran, so it's unlikely Muslims even tried to make it available for the infidels to defile.
    That's a point. What I wonder is if any Muslim groups asked to leave literature at the school for interested students to pick up and were denied.

    BTW, it looks like Ginger Strivelli has been at odds with this school system for a long time. Scroll down to the newspaper clipping she's posted dated 8/22/00.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, it isn't clear why the school would not allow the woman to distribute the wiccan information.

    It says that she tried to distribute it after she was assured by the school official that all donations of religious material of any kind would be allowed to be distributed, but then she was denied. It then says that they are looking into the practice and not accepting religious material donations at all. It does not say whether it was done as a result of her initial complaint or as a result of her not being able to distribute the Wiccan information.
    Gee, I'm shocked to learn that they found a way around the Wiccan.
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