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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sure. So you'd have to send home permission slips or something.

    Kind of a waste of time, but not illegal.
    I don't know they exact particulars that would work the best. If it was up to me I would indeed send home a paper explaining that a variety of information would be available to students if the parents wished for them to have it. Send the paper back signed or something.

    I'm not even argueing that this is a great idea. Just that it's something that can be done.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    her motivations for providing the tracts about the ideology she prefers has no bearing on this matter if the school is going to be the conduit of religious ideology of one religion then it is obligated to also serve as the same conduit for any other ... including paganism
    Her intial complaint was not that the school was discriminating against her religion. Her initial complaint was that the school was offering bibles. After she made her initial complaint, the school stopped offering any religious material. After the school stopped offering religious material, the woman showed up to offer pagan books and was turned away. She was turned away because the school was investigating her initial complaint, and was not offering any religious material during the investigation. The school was not offering bibles when the woman wanted to offer witchcraft books. The woman then turns to the media and claims discrimination. There is no evidence that the school refused wiccan books while it offered bibles. All of this fuss is only because she was pissed that her son came home with a bible. She is intorrent and is taking it out on the biggest bank account she can find.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Correct.

    But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.
    Schools do not IMO have the right to overrule the wishes of the parents.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Now this is an issue on separation of church and state on which I can agree. There are a lot of silly and petty complaints about separation which I have commented against but this won't be one of them. This is a clear violation of the law.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Correct.

    But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.
    the professor quoted within the cited article got it right
    the school must decide to make no such religious books available or it must make them available for any religion
    in this instance, the school wrongly opted to only allow the religious teachings of the Christian faith and excluded that of another (pagan) religion
    were i the one making such determination, i would prohibit allowing any such texts to be given out; but it is clear this school administration is so ignorant about this matter they should no longer be in a position to make such choices
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Read the thread.
    Link your source.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Correct.

    But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.
    Again, the school isn't distributing the texts, the students are. That is where you are just flat out wrong. Students and non-school officials are allowed to pass out flyers, documents, texts, etc.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I don't know they exact particulars that would work the best. If it was up to me I would indeed send home a paper explaining that a variety of information would be available to students if the parents wished for them to have it. Send the paper back signed or something.

    I'm not even argueing that this is a great idea. Just that it's something that can be done.
    As a parent, I'd write on the permission slip: "why are you wasting time with this crap? If I want my kid to have a Bible or whatever, I'll just buy him one. Just teach him math and stop this nonsense."
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, the school isn't distributing the texts, the students are. That is where you are just flat out wrong. Students and non-school officials are allowed to pass out flyers, documents, texts, etc.
    The school can't just absolve responsibility for what happens at a school by saying the students are the ones doing it.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Link your source.
    Engel v. Vitale | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law
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