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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    If it was a part of a large selection of information that kid can pick and choose from, then no, I would not have a problem. I would question the point if it was the one and only item available.
    I agree...there are some educational merits in having the Bible with other available books.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually this is also a part of a schools job. Why do you think that kids are punished at school for not doing homework? For fighting? For bullying? For purposely breaking things? etc etc.

    A child's teachings about morality and making good judgement calls should never just stop because they are not around thier parents. That would just lead the kid to think that it is ok to do something bad any time that they want as long as thier parents are not around.
    wrong
    you conflate the teaching of socially acceptable behavior with that of religious ideology
    one is within the bailiwick of the school. the other is solely at the discretion of the parents
    extra points if you can distinguish which falls exclusively within the parent's responsibility
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The court rulings do.
    Prove it.

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Buddhists aren't known for their evangelical efforts, they pretty much keep it in their temple and their home.

    It's note worthy to point out that this angry woman only brought wiccan material to the school in response to being outraged, whereas the Gideons have a centuries long history of passing out free bibles to whomever is interested. Her bringing material to the school was not a bona fied effort to make information about witchcraft available, it wasn't an honest effort to display her religion on equal footing. Her intent was simply to stir the pot.

    This lady needs to just chill.
    her motivations for providing the tracts about the ideology she prefers has no bearing on this matter
    if the school is going to be the conduit of religious ideology of one religion then it is obligated to also serve as the same conduit for any other ... including paganism
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    A box in the office that says "free bibles" is indoctrination?

    I suppose having any church within earshot is indoctrination too.
    you have missed the point

    that the same school refuses to similarly offer the written tracts about paganism (or any other religious ideology) evidences a religious preference
    something which cannot be (legally) done by a governmental institution
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Sure, they should be able to tell the kid to not take them and nobody should interfere with that directive.
    Sure. So you'd have to send home permission slips or something.

    Kind of a waste of time, but not illegal.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Prove it.

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    Read the thread.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have missed the point

    that the same school refuses to similarly offer the written tracts about paganism (or any other religious ideology) evidences a religious preference is something which cannot be (legally) done by a governmental institution
    That is the whole point. Why is this concept so hard to understand?

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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Because you were incorrect in attributing it to the Consitution. Say you were mistaken and I drop it, or continue to squirm.
    When one says "the Constitution says X" when they really mean that a court has interpreted the Constitution that way, most people understand that and don't get all huffy about it.
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    Re: Pagan mom challenges Bible giveaway at North Carolina school

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have missed the point

    that the same school refuses to similarly offer the written tracts about paganism (or any other religious ideology) evidences a religious preference is something which cannot be (legally) done by a governmental institution
    Correct.

    But I would argue that because this is a school, they can't distribute any texts. Why? Because this is about the rights of the students (and parents), not the rights of religious people to have access to schools.
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