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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The REAL debate is Gingrich (hopefully) vs Obama

    First issue...Gingrich's women vs Obama's Solyndra scandal....20.5 Billion dollars in "green energy" loans going to Obama supporters
    Gingrich's $1.6 million contract with Freddie Mac would probably be a better analogy.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says - Yahoo! News

    This could either be the case of an angry ex or a ****ty Gringrich. Given his history with wives, it's probably 40%-60%.
    My Ex Wife tells everyone I'm a Werewolf, that doesn't make it true.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Gingrich's $1.6 million contract with Freddie Mac would probably be a better analogy.
    How so? Gingrich signed a contract and worked for the money. BUT, somehow Solyndra's contract got modified so a Billionaire Campaign Bundler for Obama ended up ahead of the taxpayers for getting money back from the bankruptcy. How'd that happen?
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    How so? Gingrich signed a contract and worked for the money. BUT, somehow Solyndra's contract got modified so a Billionaire Campaign Bundler for Obama ended up ahead of the taxpayers for getting money back from the bankruptcy. How'd that happen?
    This White House had turned graft into an art form. Give money by the billions to millionaires and political cronies - and the environmentalists cheer you for it!

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This White House had turned graft into an art form. Give money by the billions to millionaires and political cronies - and the environmentalists cheer you for it!
    That's one of the reasons the "Stimulus" failed so miserably, but we're still stuck with the bill. I can't think of a better reason to dump Obama come November.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    How so? Gingrich signed a contract and worked for the money. BUT, somehow Solyndra's contract got modified so a Billionaire Campaign Bundler for Obama ended up ahead of the taxpayers for getting money back from the bankruptcy. How'd that happen?
    Not exactly true. Solydra's contract was approved, and then AFTER the fact, there was request by a campaign donor to crack down on imports of Chinese solar panels. There was no request to approve or alter the Soyndra contract.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not exactly true. Solydra's contract was approved, and then AFTER the fact, there was request by a campaign donor to crack down on imports of Chinese solar panels. There was no request to approve or alter the Soyndra contract.
    somehow Solyndra's contract got modified so a Billionaire Campaign Bundler for Obama ended up ahead of the taxpayers for getting money back from the bankruptcy.
    That's what I said, care to address it?

    Solyndra Funds Mostly Lost to Taxpayers, Chu Tells Lawmakers

    November 17, 2011, 4:32 PM EST

    By Jim Snyder and Brian Wingfield

    (Updates with comment from Representative Scalise in 11th paragraph.)

    Nov. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Energy Secretary Steven Chu told lawmakers he was responsible for the $535 million U.S. loan guarantee to Solyndra LLC and said he doubted much of the money would be recovered after the company’s bankruptcy.

    Chu, who once predicted the California maker of solar panels would be a “shared success story,” testified today before a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee investigating the Energy Department’s reasons for backing Solyndra and providing refinancing as it slid toward collapse.

    “Was there incompetence?” Chu said. “Was there any influence of a political nature? So I would say no. It is extremely unfortunate what has happened to Solyndra.”

    Asked how much of the taxpayer funding invested in Solyndra may be recovered, Chu, 63, said, “I’m anticipating not very much.”

    “Red flags” about the company’s prospects were “either ignored or minimized by senior officials” in the Obama administration, Representative Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican and chairman of the Energy Committee, told Chu.

    Representative Steve Scalise, a Louisiana Republican, asked who would be paid first as money is recouped from the sale of Solyndra’s assets.

    “Does the taxpayer have first dibs?” Scalise said.

    “After restructuring? No,” Chu responded.


    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...lawmakers.html
    I didn't make myself very clear, but this is what I was talking about.

    It appears to me Obama lacks the moral character to be President, but that didn't stop him.
    Last edited by Prof. Peabody; 01-25-12 at 01:42 AM.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    That's what I said, care to address it?
    Yes, I did address. Your statement was incorrect.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, I did address. Your statement was incorrect.
    As you can see by the article I posted Steven Chus says the contract was "restructured" putting an Obama Billionaire Bundlers ahead of the taxpayers.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    As you can see by the article I posted Steven Chus says the contract was "restructured" putting an Obama Billionaire Bundlers ahead of the taxpayers.
    Well, again, there is nothing in the article that establishes a connection between the contract change and the campaign donor. From a business perspective there is a very good reason why they might have wanted to subordinate the government interest. It makes private investment more attractive.

    OTOH, we know for a fact that Gingrich accepted $1.6 million from Freddie Mac, and if you believe he was paid $1.6 million for "historian services" I've got some swamp land I'd like to sell you.

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