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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    She's not alone in saying that, not that it matters. But it is something conservatives should be concerned about.

    I do worry about liberals making the General about whomever is the nominee instead of what it should be about, and that is the failed policies of Obama.

    But, in the end that is the goal, and dishonesty of liberals regardless of whom is running, so let's get it on....


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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do worry about liberals making the General about whomever is the nominee instead of what it should be about, and that is the failed policies of Obama.

    But, in the end that is the goal, and dishonesty of liberals regardless of whom is running, so let's get it on....


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    I'm sorry j, but it will always been about both candidates running. It matters who you nominate. Sorry.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Not too impressed with Ann. She was in the moderate camp from the beginning. Her schtick is bashing Democrats. We know that many in the GOP Establishment are anti-Newt. Judging from how that Establishment was with 8 years of Bush, I'm not much enamored with them.
    Newt is establishment as well. It's hard to get more established than him. Hell, his political label is also fluid. He can appeal to the moderates with what he deemed "Progressive Conservatism" several years ago*, and he can appeal to self-appointed "real conservatives" by pointing to the Ronald Reagan icon as well as the Speakership. Why that seems particularly damaging, I understand, but do not agree. I prefer my Washington insiders, I like the establishment, and I can enjoy fluidity. For your information, Newt was also helpful for the Bush administration in providing at least one name to help develop the war plan for the Iraq war (particularly its emphasis on substantially small troop numbers in comparison with other proposals). He was good at providing other GOP leaders people that they would be interested in and selling the ideas. Whether or not this is in your nexus for establishment, but many of the names in the previous administration were also at AEI (including the Vice President), which Newt was more or less loosely a scholar for.


    *From Think-Tank, "What's a Neocon?"
    -Ben Wattenberg: "Neoconservatism -- I think it makes a lot of sense. I think the word has become poisonous to a point that it’s unusable now.
    The ideas make sense and, Newt, I’ve been reading your stuff--I’ve been reading your stuff -- you call yourself a progressive conservative. Is that right?

    Gingrich: That's a term you could use.

    Wattenberg: What is the difference between a progressive conservative and a neoconservative?

    Gingrich: Look, my bias, having grown up and deeply influenced, for example, by Irving Kristol’s articles in 1976 on the Stupid Party and The Future of the Republican Party, which were both in the Wall Street Journal -- they were remarkably accurate insights into the problems of the Republican Party.

    In my mind, neoconservatives were people who started their lives as liberal Democrats, even to the left of liberal. But who over a period of time largely driven by communism became more and more militant about defending America and about adopting policies that they thought would work in the real world.

    And, so, you have a whole generation of people from Irving Kristol to Jeane Kirkpatrick, to Bill Bennett, who found themselves no longer capable of being in the Democratic Party as it was evolving.

    Many of them were Scoop Jackson Democrats and many of them came out of sort of a socially liberal, fiscally practical and national security hard line background that was very different than the old Republican Party.

    [...]
    Gingrich: Let me go back to where I think the neoconservatives I think evolved.

    One wing of evolution as in a sense Edward Banfield at Harvard and a whole range of people who said, when you look analytically at the data -- that there were a series of social policies and domestic economic policies, in some ways starting with urban renewal, that were not working.

    They were actually making life harder for the poor.

    [...]And I would argue in that sense neoconservatism’s great contributions which were -- which -- in welfare reform and to some limited extent in other domestic policy and then in the defeat of the Soviet empire were extraordinarily historic.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do worry about liberals making the General about whomever is the nominee instead of what it should be about, and that is the failed policies of Obama.
    That's ironic, because that is what you conservatives did in 2004.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do worry about liberals making the General about whomever is the nominee instead of what it should be about, and that is the failed policies of Obama.

    But, in the end that is the goal, and dishonesty of liberals regardless of whom is running, so let's get it on....


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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Newt is establishment as well. It's hard to get more established than him. Hell, his political label is also fluid. He can appeal to the moderates with what he deemed "Progressive Conservatism" several years ago*, and he can appeal to self-appointed "real conservatives" by pointing to the Ronald Reagan icon as well as the Speakership. Why that seems particularly damaging, I understand, but do not agree. I prefer my Washington insiders, I like the establishment, and I can enjoy fluidity. For your information, Newt was also helpful for the Bush administration in providing at least one name to help develop the war plan for the Iraq war (particularly its emphasis on substantially small troop numbers in comparison with other proposals). He was good at providing other GOP leaders people that they would be interested in and selling the ideas. Whether or not this is in your nexus for establishment, but many of the names in the previous administration were also at AEI (including the Vice President), which Newt was more or less loosely a scholar for.


    *From Think-Tank, "What's a Neocon?"
    -Ben Wattenberg: "Neoconservatism -- I think it makes a lot of sense. I think the word has become poisonous to a point that itís unusable now.
    The ideas make sense and, Newt, Iíve been reading your stuff--Iíve been reading your stuff -- you call yourself a progressive conservative. Is that right?

    Gingrich: That's a term you could use.

    Wattenberg: What is the difference between a progressive conservative and a neoconservative?

    Gingrich: Look, my bias, having grown up and deeply influenced, for example, by Irving Kristolís articles in 1976 on the Stupid Party and The Future of the Republican Party, which were both in the Wall Street Journal -- they were remarkably accurate insights into the problems of the Republican Party.

    In my mind, neoconservatives were people who started their lives as liberal Democrats, even to the left of liberal. But who over a period of time largely driven by communism became more and more militant about defending America and about adopting policies that they thought would work in the real world.

    And, so, you have a whole generation of people from Irving Kristol to Jeane Kirkpatrick, to Bill Bennett, who found themselves no longer capable of being in the Democratic Party as it was evolving.

    Many of them were Scoop Jackson Democrats and many of them came out of sort of a socially liberal, fiscally practical and national security hard line background that was very different than the old Republican Party.

    [...]
    Gingrich: Let me go back to where I think the neoconservatives I think evolved.

    One wing of evolution as in a sense Edward Banfield at Harvard and a whole range of people who said, when you look analytically at the data -- that there were a series of social policies and domestic economic policies, in some ways starting with urban renewal, that were not working.

    They were actually making life harder for the poor.

    [...]And I would argue in that sense neoconservatismís great contributions which were -- which -- in welfare reform and to some limited extent in other domestic policy and then in the defeat of the Soviet empire were extraordinarily historic.
    A neocon....from wikipedia
    According to Irving Kristol, the founder and "god-father" of Neoconservatism, there are three basic pillars of Neoconservatism[6]:

    1. Economics: Cutting tax rates in order to stimulate steady, wide-spread economic growth and acceptance of the necessity of the risks inherent in that growth, such as budget deficits.
    2. Domestic Affairs: Preferring strong government but not intrusive government, slight acceptance of the welfare state, politically allied with religious conservatism, and disapproval of counterculture.
    3. Foreign Policy: Patriotism is a necessity, world government is a terrible idea, statesmen should have the ability to accurately distinguish friend from foe, protect national interest both at home and abroad, and the necessity of a strong military.


    It fits my world view much better than anything I've seen from either party


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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

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    A neocon....from wikipedia

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    It fits my world view much better than anything I've seen from either party

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    Remember, Irving Kristol spoke for Irving Kristol. There are a great many others who have the right to say it is also something else to them, as they are commonly associated with the term anyway.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Seriously? You guys are using ex-wives as character witnesses? Im gonna go out on a limb and say well over 50% of divorced men (and women!) would be disqualified if that were the criteria to determine fitness. Lame. Just lame.
    How many candidates for President have we ever had that has had 3 wives? Ha,ha, I think his record speaks for itself, he is a womanizer, and a mean spirited one, to boot!

    I say, "bring him on" - we'll have a heyday exposing all his warts.



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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    How many candidates for President have we ever had that has had 3 wives? Ha,ha, I think his record speaks for itself, he is a womanizer, and a mean spirited one, to boot!

    I say, "bring him on" - we'll have a heyday exposing all his warts.
    So the big issue in this election is how many wives a candidate has had?

    Not debt, over regulation, unemployment, the possibility of a budget?

    Rock on!

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